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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2009, 01:40:42 PM » |
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My frustration isn't limited to just the fact that they don't catch up on what's happened over the past 3yrs (because, honestly, I don't want to see an episode like that). It's because this has always been the way with this show. How much time would it have taken for Locke to say that they can't go towards the beam of light because that's coming from the hatch and his other self is already there. There's too much "I know something but I'm not going to tell anyone else" on the show.
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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2009, 01:43:06 PM » |
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I agree. Sadly, television shows and movies don't use logic. Also, Locke may enjoy being a mystic or he may fear being ridiculed. They really should talk more and should trust each other more (except Ben, of course.)
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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2009, 01:49:15 PM » |
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But I think his point was that WE as an audience already know about what has happened.
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2009, 01:52:59 PM » |
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But I think his point was that WE as an audience already know about what has happened.
Right, but sharing that information could change the actions of the people. Also, who wouldn't want to see the occasional reaction from one of the characters when certain information is shared? |
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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2009, 01:56:18 PM » |
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But I think his point was that WE as an audience already know about what has happened.
Right, but sharing that information could change the actions of the people. Also, who wouldn't want to see the occasional reaction from one of the characters when certain information is shared? I guess it would have been cool if Hurley wouldn't let the statue thing go or something. |
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2009, 01:58:09 PM » |
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But I think his point was that WE as an audience already know about what has happened.
Right, but sharing that information could change the actions of the people. Also, who wouldn't want to see the occasional reaction from one of the characters when certain information is shared? I guess it would have been cool if Hurley wouldn't let the statue thing go or something. Great example. I mean, a HUGE statue?!? C'mon! |
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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2009, 02:01:35 PM » |
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But I think his point was that WE as an audience already know about what has happened.
Right, but sharing that information could change the actions of the people. Also, who wouldn't want to see the occasional reaction from one of the characters when certain information is shared? I guess it would have been cool if Hurley wouldn't let the statue thing go or something. Great example. I mean, a HUGE statue?!? C'mon! Yeah, I could see some quality lines comming from that haha. |
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2009, 02:02:21 PM » |
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When you are confused about exactly where (when!) you are and impossible things seem to be happening, one statue you see on your peregrinations could slip to the bottom of your priorities list. I have to admit, if I saw a big statue like that, I would want to see it from the front!
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2009, 02:07:42 PM » |
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I don't buy that a dialogue between the main characters in the show filling each other in on such mind-bending things like time travel and how they all returned to the island
Well we have had Faraday explaining time travel a couple of times on the show. I think the non-geeky fan's eyes glaze-over if they go too far down the science rabbit hole. And often, all it really takes is just showing that the characters are having the same questions as the audience members.
So I think all the is really required is a throw away line here or there, not a whole scene. Something along the lines of Sawyer's Faraday comment. And we did have a couple line's thrown in about how they came to the island on a plane together. |
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« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2009, 02:17:10 PM » |
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Agreed. And we cannot see all 24 hours that the characters supposedly live through. Maybe they do have conversations to which we are not privy.
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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2009, 02:36:42 PM » |
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At least one scene opened with the tail-end of an off-screen conversation... [Surf rolling]
KATE: So the woman who told you how to come back... did she mention that it would be 30 years ago?
JACK: No. No, she left that part out.Transcript from Lostpedia, of course. |
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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2009, 05:25:09 PM » |
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Well we have had Faraday explaining time travel a couple of times on the show. I think the non-geeky fan's eyes glaze-over if they go too far down the science rabbit hole. That's why I would LOVE hearing Sawyer and his sarcastic ass give a quick explanation to Jack and Kate lol...there would be zero technical sci-fi-ish gibberish but some very simple and basic "you won't believe this sh*t" responses. I would have been happy with Jack saying to Sawyer "I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that we're back on the island. nonetheless that we're back on the island in 1977", or Sawyer asking "Did the entire world freak when you guys showed up?"...Jack could simply say "We felt it best not to tell anyone about this place", and Sawyer could nod in agreement as if he understood why without needing to be told. Just a lot of small interactions like those that the writers could create to show the characters trying to deal with the reality of what they're experiencing. Right now, it's kind of being presented as if, to Jack, Kate and Hurley, time travel is a minor surprise at best lol... So I think all the is really required is a throw away line here or there, not a whole scene. Something along the lines of Sawyer's Faraday comment. And we did have a couple line's thrown in about how they came to the island on a plane together.
Yeah, exactly. We don't need an entire scene...but something a little more potent than Hurley's "whoa" lol  |
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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2009, 01:12:26 PM » |
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Right, I'm choosing to believe everything was talked about and explained while they were in the van on the way, otherwise it just bugs me too much. But they should have said something like:
Jack: we're in 1977? what the heck is going on here?
Sawyer: It's a long story. We have a lot of catching up to do, we'll tell you on the way. Get in.
This could have covered everything.
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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2009, 01:32:13 PM » |
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And poor Jack being the Sox fan that he is
He has to live through
Bucky "%$^&*" Dent
Bill "*&^%$" Buckner
and Aarron "*&^*" Boone....all over again
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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2009, 10:05:47 AM » |
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I don't buy that a dialogue between the main characters in the show filling each other in on such mind-bending things like time travel and how they all returned to the island is somehow boring by default. We're starting to make it sound like it would be impossible for the writers of Lost to write that scene and make it interesting. We can't really believe that.
And often, all it really takes is just showing that the characters are having the same questions as the audience members. We experience everything through the characters in tv shows and movies...they are our "guides" through the landscape of the story. So when characters do things and say things that we ourselves would do and say, we become more involved in what's happening on the screen...relating to what the characters are saying and doing allows us to better experience what they're experiencing. So if there really is no scene in the works where these characters ask each other and tell each other some basic info that we ALL know we ourselves would be asking, then I think they're making a mistake.
I agree 100%. Mainly (for me) the issue is now we're left wondering "Did they talk about things, and now everyone knows and is on the same page?" or is it " Why did they not talk about it?" (as in "Why did Jack say it doesn't matter how Locke died, when it clearly does"; and "Was Locke really trying to be secretive when he didn't say why they should stay away from the light beam? And if so, why?") It just gives us a whole new set of questions to wonder about, and frankly I think we've quite got our plates full with questions already, thank you very much, without having to wonder if the characters are as up-to-speed as we viewers are. That's what makes it frustrating to me. Right, I'm choosing to believe everything was talked about and explained while they were in the van on the way, otherwise it just bugs me too much. But they should have said something like:
Jack: we're in 1977? what the heck is going on here?
Sawyer: It's a long story. We have a lot of catching up to do, we'll tell you on the way. Get in.
This could have covered everything.
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