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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2009, 04:13:33 AM »

KoKo will be ALL OVER this thread with her opinions!  Cheesy
I'm in a total agreement with the lack of chemistry--just doesn't sit right....

Plus....I STILL don't trust Juliet at all.

I don't trust Juliet either.... and Maxor, I agree that Josh did a great job, and that Sawyer seemed true in his affection, but Juliet...I don't think she's grown as much as he has. I still think she's hiding a lot from him. And after 3 years? Hmmmm...makes me wonder. I want to know what she knows!
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2009, 04:15:32 AM »

I trust her.  I haven't seen any reason not to since she told Jack about Ben's plans.  I think you two are just impossible to please with her.
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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2009, 04:23:15 AM »

I trust her.  I haven't seen any reason not to since she told Jack about Ben's plans.  I think you two are just impossible to please with her.

Or are you having the wool pulled over your eyes?  Hmmm?
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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2009, 04:26:56 AM »

Maybe it's the way she stares and blinks and smirks....like she knows something no one else does, and feels empowered by it. And now she loves Sawyer??? It just felt way too fast! I missed too much in those 3 years they kept skipping over.

Though they do probably deserve each other. They both know how to lie really well. I think Sawyer's using his powers for good, whereas with Juliet....she's still morally ambiguous.
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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2009, 05:53:48 AM »

KoKo will be ALL OVER this thread with her opinions!  Cheesy
I'm in a total agreement with the lack of chemistry--just doesn't sit right....

Plus....I STILL don't trust Juliet at all.

I don't trust Juliet either.... and Maxor, I agree that Josh did a great job, and that Sawyer seemed true in his affection, but Juliet...I don't think she's grown as much as he has. I still think she's hiding a lot from him. And after 3 years? Hmmmm...makes me wonder. I want to know what she knows!

She didn't leave with the sub and stayed on the island for another 3 years for Sawyer.
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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2009, 06:29:23 AM »

I love Sawyer and Juliet together...

Now, for the three years they've been together: I thought the three years OFF the island didn't seem like that long ON the island? Help, I'm confused! Three years passed on the island (Amy's husband died, then she and Horace got together...and Horace asked Sawyer if he thought it was possible for Amy to love him since it's only been three years)...but I thought time was different on the island than off.

My post is more confusing than the concept, I'm sure!
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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2009, 08:40:58 AM »

I love Sawyer and Juliet together too!

Their relationship had three years to grow and mature into a real relationship while Sawyer and Kate just had the hots for each other.

I hope Sawyer tells Kate to take a hike. Kate made her choice when she left the island. The only reason Kate is coming back to the island is because she has nothing left after losing Aaron. I think Kate liked the fun of having two men fighting over her. For Kate if she goes back she knows she has Jack because he is going with her and Sawyer is just a bonus.
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« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2009, 09:09:42 AM »

Sawyer has certainly evolved over the course of the series.

I think what he and Juliet have is real.  Why else would she stay for 3 years?  She finally had her chance to "go back" (after 2 weeks) and instead chose to stay on the island (and be a mechanic???).  Sawyer has given her something she never had before.  A man who loves her and believes in her.
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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2009, 09:18:07 AM »

I hope Sawyer doesn't dump Juliette for Kate.  Sawyer has grown during those 3 years, but I don't see the same growth with Kate.  Yes, she seemed to raise Aaron just fine, but she still falls back to old habits of ducking and running.
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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2009, 09:22:53 AM »

I just read through this whole thread and no one has mentioned that Sawyer got the call from Jin...and LIED to Juliet to run off to see Kate (Oh, yeah, and Hurley, Jack, etc.).  He didn't say, "Hey, our friends are back, let's go see them", just, "It's Jin, I gotta go".  Same old Sawyer (not that I don't love the character!).
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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2009, 10:24:15 AM »

Something I was thinking about last night regarding Sawyer, Juliet, Jack and Kate was that Sawyer and Juliet have had 3 years together to form a bond and a relationship.  In fact someone else here mentioned basically the same thing (I read way too many threads and posts to remember who said what - sorry!). Those that were stuck in '77 are now much closer than they ever were when they were all together in the present after first crashing on the island. 

Before the 06 left, they had approx 2 months of living together on the island or so?  Then the 06'ers left.  Those who remained behind realistically probably kept hoping for a return (as Sawyer sort of "explained" to Horace and to the viewers) but as time passed, that hope faded slowly away, until they just decided to live out what they felt would be their life and accepted their new situation ... stuck in 1977, making the best of what they had and going from day to day.  Yes, they still kept looking and kept watch, but as people do, they adapted to their new situation and moved on, forming new bonds, relationships and taking new jobs.

What struck me though (and actually did last season as well) is that those who returned went their own separate ways in the world, except for the brief period of time that Jack and Kate had together, rarely had contact and ended up returning to the island with nearly the same semi-cautious, "superficial" (for lack of a better word) relationship after 3 years that they had after spending 2 months on the island.  I ended up thinking that the Sawyer-Juliet relationship was more 'real' and based on something more 'solid' than 2 months of scurrying around, living in danger and going through the emotional upheaval of that first two months.
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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2009, 11:19:05 AM »

Sigh. I appear to be in the minority. Yes, sure, I am in agreeance about Sawyer maturing. Nice to see him assume a leadership role and being heroic and genuinely caring...but I was NOT at all thrilled to see him with Juliette. I was actually sickened -- I nearly hurled.  I don't know what it is, but I just don't see it. It seems so unnatural.  Yeah, they've been together 3 years and been thru a lot but it made me nuts when I saw them together. I'm sorry to all the Jim-Jul fans out there, but I cannot stand it!!!!!

I just loved Sawyer and Kate together. It's like they were destined to be together somehow... And then this abomination happens.  BLLLLLARRRGHHHHHH.   Excuse me.... I need some Pepto Bismo.  Tongue 
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« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2009, 11:28:10 AM »

Aw, poor Koko!!  Cheesy

I don't think Juliet thought through leaving the island in 1974. When Sawyer says Whatever you're looking for doesn't exist yet.... maybe she took it to heart. Stayed another two weeks. Realized that he was right. Then he's attracted to her because she's a woman, turns on the charm, and voila! I think she's attracted to him, and I think that started when he waded out of the ocean all shirtless and sarcastic after the freighter blew up. But loveHuh

Just way too fast for me. I have to see more of what happened between 1974 and 1977.

I noticed that with Kate, he was James...in name and personality....now he's with the DI and Juliet, and he's called Jim. It just ain't right.
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« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2009, 11:32:18 AM »

Aw, poor Koko!!  Cheesy

I don't think Juliet thought through leaving the island in 1974. When Sawyer says Whatever you're looking for doesn't exist yet.... maybe she took it to heart. Stayed another two weeks. Realized that he was right. Then he's attracted to her because she's a woman, turns on the charm, and voila! I think she's attracted to him, and I think that started when he waded out of the ocean all shirtless and sarcastic after the freighter blew up. But loveHuh

Just way too fast for me. I have to see more of what happened between 1974 and 1977.

I noticed that with Kate, he was James...in name and personality....now he's with the DI and Juliet, and he's called Jim. It just ain't right.

Amen to that sister!!!! No, it just ain't right!  grumble
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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2009, 11:32:48 AM »

I was trying all night to get Mandy to stop shouting at the screen to not trust Juliet, so...
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