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« Reply #45 on: February 27, 2009, 04:47:50 PM » |
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Okay, so is there a way to come out at other pockets?
wasn't the tunisia the polar opposite of where the island was at that time?? That would mean the island is just south of the 30th parallel in the Pacific Ocean, pretty close to New Zealand, whenever someone has turned the wheel. But the island is always moving, so... ?? |
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« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2009, 11:52:40 PM » |
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Widmore is talking to Locke about how they met when he was much younger. Locke tells him that it happened 4 days ago in Locke time. When Farraday mets Desmond in the hatch and tells him to go see his mother, Desmond wakes up in present time with that memory. So wouldn't have Widmore remembered John Locke 4-5 days ago?
I don't think Widmore just remembered Locke 4 days ago. He didn't say that. How could you forget a guy who disappeared before your eyes when you were 17? I think Widmore knew who John Locke was all along. Only two years after Locke vanished, Richard went to see his birth and also visited him when Locke was 6yo -- Widmore was still in favor on the island during all that time -- (he said he was on the island for more than 30 years). By the time Locke is in a wheelchair, Widmore is off the island as a wheeler-dealer. (Do we have a guess for when Widmore left the island? Are we assuming that Widmore is the financial backer of Dharma in the 70s?) By 2004, Widmore is already off the island, has computed the window for finding the island on 9/22/04 and arranges (through Abaddon) for Locke to be on that plane. But that's the way they explained it when Farraday talks to Desmond outside the hatch. How does Desmond forget meeting Farraday outside the hatch when Farraday shows up on the island months if not a year later? Shouldn't he already know Farraday? It's the same thing but it's not consistant. |
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« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2009, 11:59:09 PM » |
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I can't remember if I've read this here or not.
But, something else with timing is now bothering me.
Farraday meets Desmond, Desmond is wearing all his gear. So Desmond hasn't seen Kelvin put on the suit with the hole in it. Are we to assume that Desmond thinks that Farraday must be a hostile.
Because if not, wouldn't the meeting with Farraday totally mess with the future?
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« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2009, 02:17:39 PM » |
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I was just speaking to a buddy of mine and he got me thinking about this thread. This is a timing issue but it doesn't involve Jack, it's about Widmore.
Widmore is talking to Locke about how they met when he was much younger. Locke tells him that it happened 4 days ago in Locke time. When Farraday mets Desmond in the hatch and tells him to go see his mother, Desmond wakes up in present time with that memory. So wouldn't have Widmore remembered John Locke 4-5 days ago? Which then gets me thinking, how was Abbadon at the hospital with Locke? and how did he tell Locke to go on his walkabout when technically Widmore wouldn't know of Locke yet? I could be off, but that's the rational they've used to explain time travel, which is quite confusing...LOL...
This is a good point. However I think the explanation lies in Desmond. When Widmore sees John and they have their conversation, the reason that Widmore remembers John from a long time ago is because that's what happened. That is the street that was made, to use Faraday's analogy. That is to say, John meeting Widmore when he was 17 was not changing the past. It was only going in reverse on that street. Now, when Faraday talks to Desmond outside of the Hatch, that is changing the past. Faraday says that there is something very special about how Desmond exists in time that would allow for this. |
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« Reply #49 on: March 04, 2009, 10:29:15 PM » |
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I have a small issue with Jack's Beard. I am a Master Barber and I feel Jack's beard conflicts with the timeline. It depends on how much time passes between Locke's meeting with Jack and when he is killed by Ben but we are given the impression it isn't substantial. In Locke and Jack's meeting after Locke's car crash Jack has in my estimation little more than two weeks growth. When we see Jack receive the obituary on his flight he had a beard that would have taken at least eight to 10 weeks to grow. Bentham's obituary would be published no more than a few days after he was found. I'm also certain Locke didn't swing for over month. Maybe the island has an effect on hair growth. That would explain why Sawyer, Sun Michael all had fairly drastic hair lengths in what appears to be relatively short periods of time.
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« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2009, 10:47:34 PM » |
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I get what you're saying, but mostly I just wanted to say Welcome to the boards! You win some kind of award for most well coordinated screenname, first post and first thread.  |
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Who the hell knows whats going through her crazy nappy head. I can't even understand normal female thinking.
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« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2009, 09:43:01 AM » |
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OK, here's what I cant seem to figure out. What we know from Season 4 is that we find Jack all strung out from weekend warrior get-away flights over the Pacific Ocean looking for a crash. It appears he has been doing this for sometime now when he mentions it to Kate at their late night meeting outside the airport. We ll are under the belief that this has been going on for weeks. Now on that last flight we see him on with the full beard is when he notices the Obituary for Jeremy Bentham right? Typically an obituary comes out within a week of the persons death. So here we go...
Jump to season 5 and now we find out what happens: Locke is back, gets in a crash, meets Jack at the hospital, gets out, goes to a motel, and Ben Kills him. Locke still has the bruises on his face which leads us to believe that he just came out of the hospital, so how long is John dead before this obituary comes out? Is he just left hanging there while Jack continues to get all messed up, taking plane rides on weekends and grows a beard? Is he kept in a meat locker? It just doesn't add up and I hope the writers didn't overlook this. Anyone have any ideas?
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« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2009, 10:54:45 AM » |
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It is possible that Ben took Locke's body and gave it to the woman at the butcher shop, and then hung him later, but until we get some kind of proof that he did that, we'll never really know for sure how long it was between him dying, and the obit coming out.
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"So, go ahead and tighten those skull screws 2 Notches below excruciating, or else the power won't transfer to the drill."
God I Hate Michael So Much.
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WTF Would Jesus Do??
I love validation.
NEPTUNE IS MY COPILOT!!!
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« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2009, 10:57:33 AM » |
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Well, certain people grow hair slower than others. I for instance shave on Monday, and get 5 o'clock shadow on friday after noon.
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"So, go ahead and tighten those skull screws 2 Notches below excruciating, or else the power won't transfer to the drill."
God I Hate Michael So Much.
I danced a Jig when Michael Died, and again when Juliette hit bottom.
WTF Would Jesus Do??
I love validation.
NEPTUNE IS MY COPILOT!!!
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« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2009, 12:37:15 PM » |
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OK, here's what I cant seem to figure out. What we know from Season 4 is that we find Jack all strung out from weekend warrior get-away flights over the Pacific Ocean looking for a crash. It appears he has been doing this for sometime now when he mentions it to Kate at their late night meeting outside the airport. We ll are under the belief that this has been going on for weeks. Now on that last flight we see him on with the full beard is when he notices the Obituary for Jeremy Bentham right? Typically an obituary comes out within a week of the persons death. So here we go...
Jump to season 5 and now we find out what happens: Locke is back, gets in a crash, meets Jack at the hospital, gets out, goes to a motel, and Ben Kills him. Locke still has the bruises on his face which leads us to believe that he just came out of the hospital, so how long is John dead before this obituary comes out? Is he just left hanging there while Jack continues to get all messed up, taking plane rides on weekends and grows a beard? Is he kept in a meat locker? It just doesn't add up and I hope the writers didn't overlook this. Anyone have any ideas?
Locke could have been in the hospital for several days, and Locke may have tried to talk to someone again after he was released, and then a few days later wrought with depression he finally decides to end it. In a seedy hotel like that, I could see it taking a few days for the body to be discovered, and then a few more before Jack happens upon the Obit. Makes perfect sense to me, most people seem to take the timing as too fast because of the pacing of the episode, but I see the nuance of the timing. |
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« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2009, 07:33:08 AM » |
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I was rewatching the episodes of season 4.
In "There's no place like home" Ben meets Jack in the funeralplace:
BEN: Sorry. Didn't mean to scare you. Did he tell you that I was off the island?
JACK: (Exhales deeply) Yes, he did.
BEN: When did you speak to him?
JACK: (Inhales deeply) About a month ago.
So there was about a month between Locke visiting Jack at the hospital and Jack meeting Kate at the airport.
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« Reply #56 on: March 25, 2009, 07:56:09 AM » |
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Good catch!
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« Reply #57 on: March 25, 2009, 01:41:48 PM » |
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Niiiiiiiice! Finally got an answer to something.
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« Reply #58 on: March 30, 2009, 08:40:49 AM » |
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Well done opgelost! I think we've still got a lot to see of Locke's time as JB. I think I just expected it all to be covered in this episode given the title!
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« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2009, 04:58:01 PM » |
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sorry to up this, but i'm doing my rewatch now
locke was under alias and literally had no one looking for him... so let's say a week passed between the hanging and the hospital visit... it could have been a couple/three weeks for someone to even find locke's body hanging
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