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Offline Luna C

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Sayid's extradition/deportation?
« on: February 19, 2009, 08:45:20 AM »
Was trying to figure out why Sayid would be headed for Guam. Didn't make much sense at first since if he was being deported he'd be sent to Iraq.

But we did see him kill someone in the Seychelles last season. I'm thinking Ben ratted him out to have him arrested, and the Marshall (or whatever she is) is escorting Sayid back there to face criminal charges? (or so she thinks....)

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Re: Sayid's extradition/deportation?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2009, 09:45:24 AM »
he was definitely in some kind of custody like kate was on 815 but i want to know where i've seen that woman he was with before.. its driving me crazy

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Re: Sayid's extradition/deportation?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2009, 02:33:39 PM »
The shortest route to the Seychelles from L.A. would be to cross the Atlantic, so I think he's being extradited or fake-extradited to Guam as a consequence of something Ben did or said. Ratted him out, or got Sayid to beat him up and fakely extradited. 

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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2009, 02:48:14 PM »
Knowing Ben, one of Sayid's targets over the past three years was in Guam.   So Ben turned him in to get him on the plane.   Maybe we'll see more about it.   I don't think Guam is a major hub of an airline, it's a destination.   So it would makes sense that he was being take to Guam. 

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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2009, 04:07:55 PM »
We'll definitely see more about it...they've set it up really well to use flashbacks again to tell the story. Lots more mysteries to solve!

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Re: Sayid's extradition/deportation?
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2009, 04:47:49 PM »
They also said that there was a layover in Honolulu, so maybe it has something to do with that.

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Re: Sayid's extradition/deportation?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2009, 05:28:57 PM »
The shortest route to the Seychelles from L.A. would be to cross the Atlantic, so I think he's being extradited or fake-extradited to Guam as a consequence of something Ben did or said. Ratted him out, or got Sayid to beat him up and fakely extradited. 

Are you sure about that? They're in the Indian Ocean...going across the U.S. and the Atlantic and Africa seems longer than going across the Pacific.

Also, Guam is a U.S. territory, so I'm not sure he can be extradited to it from the mainland U.S. (If anyone knows the legal issues involved, I'm genuinely curious.)

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Re: Sayid's extradition/deportation?
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2009, 05:58:10 PM »
The shortest route to the Seychelles from L.A. would be to cross the Atlantic, so I think he's being extradited or fake-extradited to Guam as a consequence of something Ben did or said. Ratted him out, or got Sayid to beat him up and fakely extradited. 

Are you sure about that? They're in the Indian Ocean...going across the U.S. and the Atlantic and Africa seems longer than going across the Pacific.

Also, Guam is a U.S. territory, so I'm not sure he can be extradited to it from the mainland U.S. (If anyone knows the legal issues involved, I'm genuinely curious.)

Well, I measured on my wall map with a string, so it's not exactly a scientific conclusion, LOL. But if Ben did set up the whole thing, it would be entirely fake, and only Sayid believes he is really being extradited. Then it wouldn't matter where he was being told he is going. He's going where Ben sends him.

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Re: Sayid's extradition/deportation?
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2009, 06:09:49 PM »
Knowing Ben, one of Sayid's targets over the past three years was in Guam.   So Ben turned him in to get him on the plane.   Maybe we'll see more about it.   I don't think Guam is a major hub of an airline, it's a destination.   So it would makes sense that he was being take to Guam. 

Probably a fake law enforcement officer! I don't think Ben knew that they would be going back to the island on a plane that was bound for Guam (seems Eloise had figured that out just a short time ago) so I don't think he planned it so that Sayid had to eliminate someone in Guam.

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Re: Sayid's extradition/deportation?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2009, 07:24:53 PM »
Where, when and how did anyone say Sayid was being deported or extradited?  Folks he was handcuffed.
She works for Ben or is another.  He was taken by handcuff simply becaues he did not want to go on his own. No where did it say he is a prisoner.  I watched the show again and not once did I get that. 

The other dichotomy to this that Kate had been handcuffed from Australia, so if in fact they are trying to make this like the 815 flight, someone was handcuffed.

The only reason they were on a flight to Guam was due to the fact that Mrs. Hawking gave Jack a notebook of flights that would cross into a window and she said Arija flight 316


ELOISE: Jack... the binder in your hands shows all the air routes that fly over the coordinates where I believe the Island will be in little more than a day from now. There's a commercial airliner flying from L.A. to Guam. It's going to go right through our window. Ajira Airways, Flight 316. If you have any hope of the Island bringing you back, it must be that plane. You all need to be on it. It must be that flight. [Sighs] If you... want to return, you need to recreate as best you can the circumstances that brought you there in the first place. That means as many of the same people as you are able to bring with you.

JACK: And what if we can't get anyone else to come with us? What if we're it?

ELOISE: All I can tell you is the result would be... unpredictable.

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Re: Sayid's extradition/deportation?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2009, 07:46:35 PM »
Well, I measured on my wall map with a string, so it's not exactly a scientific conclusion, LOL. But if Ben did set up the whole thing, it would be entirely fake, and only Sayid believes he is really being extradited. Then it wouldn't matter where he was being told he is going. He's going where Ben sends him.

That's roughly the scientific process I used too.   :D

I really couldn't get a read on whether Sayid was there voluntarily or not -- and how much he knew of what was going on. I can't remember: Did he speak to any of the other O6?

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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2009, 07:50:10 PM »
Where, when and how did anyone say Sayid was being deported or extradited?  Folks he was handcuffed.
She works for Ben or is another.  He was taken by handcuff simply becaues he did not want to go on his own. No where did it say he is a prisoner.  I watched the show again and not once did I get that.

They never *said* he was a prisoner, but he has to be in some kind of official custody considering that:
a) she flashed a badge of some sort to get them both around security
b) they don't allow the general public to handcuff people and take them on planes headed out of the country.

The officer may or may not be in cahoots with Ben/The Others/Widmore/whoever else, but logic would indicate that she has some sort of law enforcement role (which she may or may not be abusing.)

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Re: Sayid's extradition/deportation?
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2009, 05:01:52 AM »
Where, when and how did anyone say Sayid was being deported or extradited?  Folks he was handcuffed.
She works for Ben or is another.  He was taken by handcuff simply becaues he did not want to go on his own. No where did it say he is a prisoner.  I watched the show again and not once did I get that.

They never *said* he was a prisoner, but he has to be in some kind of official custody considering that:
a) she flashed a badge of some sort to get them both around security
b) they don't allow the general public to handcuff people and take them on planes headed out of the country.

The officer may or may not be in cahoots with Ben/The Others/Widmore/whoever else, but logic would indicate that she has some sort of law enforcement role (which she may or may not be abusing.)

We are watching LOST you know and flashing a badge means nothing
Not sure if you watched the previews for next week but catch them and you will know what I mean, not a spoiler but don't want to rattle a cage.

My point is no one said she was an official officer either.  Kate is under court order not to leave the state and she gets on a plane, was able to have a gun.

We have to flex here cause what we see is not what we always get.

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Re: Sayid's extradition/deportation?
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2009, 07:30:45 AM »
he was definitely in some kind of custody like kate was on 815 but i want to know where i've seen that woman he was with before.. its driving me crazy


 you may have seen her before but not on lost she was officially accredited as a NEW addition to the cast....

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Re: Sayid's extradition/deportation?
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2009, 07:33:51 AM »
We'll definitely see more about it...they've set it up really well to use flashbacks again to tell the story. Lots more mysteries to solve!
yes i thnk that they will use "flahbacks" again, but in cases from now on i think they will be more like... prequels... or missing pieces... flashbacks told backstories... these ... in my opionion will be more like fillers....not knocking by any means... because every great thing needs to eveolve and grow... which i think LOST has and will continue to do.