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Question: How would you rate Episode 5x06, "316"
10 (Best) - 21 (65.6%)
9 - 2 (6.3%)
8 - 5 (15.6%)
7 - 2 (6.3%)
6 - 2 (6.3%)
5 - 0 (0%)
4 - 0 (0%)
3 - 0 (0%)
2 - 0 (0%)
1 (Worst) - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 32

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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2009, 11:06:42 AM »

Bambi,

How can the aaron mystery make this episode a lower rating. This whole show has been based on mysteries and unanswered questions. We will get the answer some day. Kate was devastated, something major happened for her to give up/lose aaron. It will make for a great episode in the future. Kate did not just run like she usually does, somehting very bad happened to her.
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2009, 11:48:09 AM »

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I do not think something very bad happened to her, more than she did wake up to a fact of life.  I believe her tears were that of a grieving foster parent/mother who have come to love and protect a baby more than she possibly imagined she could.

Perhaps this is what you mean by something very bad happened to her.  I totally agree that she did not run!  She came back to do what was needed of her.  Amen for that. 

I think Kate realized she would not be coming back and therefore would never see Aaron again.  I think most people can relate to that.  I could.  She was with Jack because that is the connection.

Yes, we will get the answer and for now TPTB do not believe it is part of the script they need to tell. 


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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2009, 12:13:15 PM »

Best written episode this year!  Classic Lost in the sense that they answered so many questions and created so many new ones.  The Aaron question, who talked to Hurley, what happened to Sayid and what the heck happened to Ben?  The music was excellent!  Can you imagine willingly getting on a plane thinking it is going to crash?  That's just crazy!

I believe the new questions were necessary because once they are back on the island will they go back to flashbacks?  What did Sawyer ask Kate to do?  Did Ben go kill Penny before he got on the plane?  Aaaahhhhhh!!!  The possibilities!

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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2009, 12:25:03 PM »

Juggy-

I do not think something very bad happened to her, more than she did wake up to a fact of life.  I believe her tears were that of a grieving foster parent/mother who have come to love and protect a baby more than she possibly imagined she could.

Perhaps this is what you mean by something very bad happened to her.  I totally agree that she did not run!  She came back to do what was needed of her.  Amen for that. 

I think Kate realized she would not be coming back and therefore would never see Aaron again.  I think most people can relate to that.  I could.  She was with Jack because that is the connection.

Yes, we will get the answer and for now TPTB do not believe it is part of the script they need to tell. 



I include many possiblilites in the something bad happened to her catagory. Did she find out that she can not keep aaron for some reason. Does someone come and take Aaron away. Something major happened for her to change her mind in the last 48 hours we have seen.
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2009, 12:29:31 PM »

Juggy-

I do not think something very bad happened to her, more than she did wake up to a fact of life.  I believe her tears were that of a grieving foster parent/mother who have come to love and protect a baby more than she possibly imagined she could.

Perhaps this is what you mean by something very bad happened to her.  I totally agree that she did not run!  She came back to do what was needed of her.  Amen for that. 

I think Kate realized she would not be coming back and therefore would never see Aaron again.  I think most people can relate to that.  I could.  She was with Jack because that is the connection.

Yes, we will get the answer and for now TPTB do not believe it is part of the script they need to tell. 



I include many possiblilites in the something bad happened to her catagory. Did she find out that she can not keep aaron for some reason. Does someone come and take Aaron away. Something major happened for her to change her mind in the last 48 hours we have seen.

Well, I am sticking with she knows she will never return from the island and was warned by Claire not to return him.  I just don't see it being sooooooooo dramatic.  I think the big club of growing up and reality bonked her on the head.  a turning point for the runaway.

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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2009, 12:58:54 PM »

Bambi,

How can the aaron mystery make this episode a lower rating. This whole show has been based on mysteries and unanswered questions. We will get the answer some day. Kate was devastated, something major happened for her to give up/lose aaron. It will make for a great episode in the future. Kate did not just run like she usually does, somehting very bad happened to her.
I just didn't like how it was written. Kate was just-I don't want to talk about that-and that was it-no one mentioned it. Sun & Hurley I think would have definitely asked about where he was. I just thought it was weird that she was all upset-then everything was fine. Just my opinion Wink
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2009, 01:12:43 PM »

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A Lost first... Except for the opening scene, there was no jumping around in time in this episode.  No flashbacks. No flashforwards.  No off-island on-island flip-flops.  Just a straight forward sequential storyline.  And I liked it.  At least for this episode.

So many questions answered!
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2009, 06:28:11 PM »

great episode! it answered some questions (christian's shoes, 316, how dharma found the island) and also raised some more (how did sayid and hurley get there, did ben kill penny, and what in the world happened to aaron)
this episode set the tone for the rest of the season. i expect the rest to be up there with this one
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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2009, 09:45:16 AM »

Wow, I am surprised to see all the 10s!  I thought it was good, but not that good!  What some people see as a major plus (the "first-time-for-Lost" of not switching back and forth between island/future, or flashbacks or whatever), I see as a major negative.  Because Locke and Sawyer are my favorite characters, I was very disappointed to not see them this time (well, we saw Locke and the five-o-clock shadow on his face, which was way cool and the high point of the show for me, I think.) 

Pluses:  Lapidus being the pilot (the only time during the show that I jumped up and down and slapped myself on the head : Cheesy)

Finding out about Christian's shoes (although like Mrs. Alpert said earlier, I felt like it was missing just a little bit of emotion or something there on Jack's part.)

Negatives:  The whole scene with Eloise Hawking and Desmond.  Neither of them seemed quite... right? for what I'm expecting from their characters. 

Everyone just swallowing stuff without question...  Get on this plane?  Fine - I'm not even going to ask what's going to happen.  Don't ask where my nephew is?  Fine - I'm not worried.  What's Ben doing on here?  Fine - he's with you, it's OK.  All very out-of-character, it felt like to me.  But, maybe they're just showing how everyone's resigned to the whole leap-of-faith thing now.

Jack's grandpa.  I kept thinking "Is that it?  Just a device to get something that belonged to Christian?" (Maybe it's because my house is full of stuff that has belonged to deceased relatives, so to me it would be no problem whatsoever if I was asked to provide something of theirs.   Grin)  I'm with Cayley in that I was hoping/expecting that Grandpa would get to go along on a little adventure.

So anyway, it was good, but I wasn't doing any living-room-dancing-waving-my-arms-around, so it got an 8 from me.  Probably just not enough Sawyer for me.   Wink



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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2009, 10:37:40 AM »

My guess is we'll see Ray again. The writing wasn't 100% in this episode, I agree, but it was still pretty good. And the hilarious parts brought the writing back up to possibly one of the better episodes of the series.

I think we're going to need more mysteries at the rate they are answering everything. I'm very glad that the "what happened to Aaron" thing happened. Why doesn't Jack pursue the issue? Maybe he's getting smart. If someone said to me with that intensity never to mention it again to her, I would probably drop it. I'd still think about it and wonder, but I would totally back off. As for Hurley and Sun, they had their own stuff going on. They'll probably get around to asking.
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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2009, 06:48:09 AM »



There was absolutely no filler. I don't believe that Jack visiting his Grandfather was purely about retrieving the shoes.

I loved Ms. Hawking's hammy explanation of The Island moving. It was like being subjected to Dilbert-esque corporate speak at a "team building" meeting in any modern office; except it was about time-travel, vile vorticees and pre-destination instead of "best practice", "being proactive" and "client focus". Next time you're yawning through your next office meeting, imagine Ms. Hawking operating the PowerPoint slides and you'll see what I mean. It was meant to be dumb, patronising and silly.

I don't find it unusual that Desmond didn't react quicker to Ms. Hawking's presence. Given the circumstances, I would have listened to her first too, before firing my mouth off.

The episode also confirmed that there is at least one off-Island DHARMA Station, as many of us had suspected. That's as big a reveal to me, as finding the first DHARMA Station on The Island.
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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2009, 09:14:40 AM »

It was like being subjected to Dilbert-esque corporate speak at a "team building" meeting in any modern office; except it was about time-travel, vile vorticees and pre-destination instead of "best practice", "being proactive" and "client focus".

ROFL!  You forgot "paradigm shift"...  Cheesy   That was always my favorite.  Code for "We're going to make you stop doing what works and start making you do something that's time-consuming."

Good point about the off-island Dharma station, I forgot about that.  Cool that it had those columns in it.
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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2009, 10:38:52 AM »

I must have missed the comments by whoever gave this a 6.  Must have been a tourist. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2009, 01:24:36 PM »



There was absolutely no filler. I don't believe that Jack visiting his Grandfather was purely about retrieving the shoes.

I loved Ms. Hawking's hammy explanation of The Island moving. It was like being subjected to Dilbert-esque corporate speak at a "team building" meeting in any modern office; except it was about time-travel, vile vorticees and pre-destination instead of "best practice", "being proactive" and "client focus". Next time you're yawning through your next office meeting, imagine Ms. Hawking operating the PowerPoint slides and you'll see what I mean. It was meant to be dumb, patronising and silly.

I don't find it unusual that Desmond didn't react quicker to Ms. Hawking's presence. Given the circumstances, I would have listened to her first too, before firing my mouth off.

The episode also confirmed that there is at least one off-Island DHARMA Station, as many of us had suspected. That's as big a reveal to me, as finding the first DHARMA Station on The Island.
I think this is the first time I've agreed completely with one of MangoBingo's posts!
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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2009, 08:26:04 PM »

Um, I changed my vote after watching it for the 4th time. It took that many times to realize the whole Jack:Locke :: Thomas:Jesus thing.

And although the Jack-telling-the-story-about-the-shoes was a little unemotional, he makes up for it because he DIVES off a freaking waterfall. This time through, I thought, Jack is waking up on the island as a new man and the first thing he does is dive off a freaking waterfall. He wasn't afraid of dying at all, and that said a lot (like maybe he finally believes that the island has a purpose for him and he CAN'T die like that).

So...10 now. I usually go with my gut the first time around, but after realizing that Thomas thing, I owe mad props to tptb.
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