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WHAT HAPPENED TO DANIELLE'S DUG OUT SHELTER
« on: February 12, 2009, 02:35:42 PM »
In season 1, Danielle tells Sayid how she got to the island. She tells him they crashes on the rocks, made a camp on the beach, then later dug out a temporary shelter. When Jin flashes to the time after the temple flash, he walks back to the beach and sees Danielle's camp on the beach with a fire still burning. Jin sees the dead bodies and then sees Danielle kill Robert. When did they dig the temporary shelter? Is it safe to assume that the Blackrock is near the temple in the dark territory? There was a box of explosive in the beach camp that looked like it came from the Blackrock. When Danielle took Jack and company to get the dynamite from the Blackrock, she told them that this is where Montan lost his arm. Any thoughts?

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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO DANIELLE'S DUG OUT SHELTER
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2009, 02:39:49 PM »
I believe the dugout shelter was where she had Sayid. Then after he escaped, she blew it up. And based on what she said in "Exodus", yes, the temple is probably near the Black Rock.

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2009, 02:46:02 PM »
I believe the dugout shelter was where she had Sayid. Then after he escaped, she blew it up. And based on what she said in "Exodus", yes, the temple is probably near the Black Rock.
She said THEY dug out a temporary shelter. If she killed them on the beach shortly after they arrived, how could THEY dig out the shelter?

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2009, 03:21:21 PM »
well, two months did pass between landing on the island and Danielle shooting the team. They may have maintained two camps, been divided some how, moved back to the beach, or had a writer screw-up. :-\

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2009, 04:18:22 PM »
well, two months did pass between landing on the island and Danielle shooting the team. They may have maintained two camps, been divided some how, moved back to the beach, or had a writer screw-up. :-\
I think it was a lot less then two months. Montan's arm was still in pretty good shape. I think you are right.....writer screwup.....it doesn't happen that often. We still love them!

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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO DANIELLE'S DUG OUT SHELTER
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2009, 04:28:28 PM »
It could still be that they dug it out between the two flashes of time we saw. Perhaps the structure was pre-existing, and they dug it out only in the sense that Locke and Boone dug out the Swan Station (they did a ton of digging if you recall). There are a lot of ways the writers could keep Danielle's story on track, so we can really rule it as a flat out error yet. But it is certainly counter to what we might have expected.

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2009, 04:32:37 PM »
well, two months did pass between landing on the island and Danielle shooting the team. They may have maintained two camps, been divided some how, moved back to the beach, or had a writer screw-up. :-\

Yeah, I thought it was two months between the flashes, too. Maybe Danielle stayed on the beach while the others dug out the other shelter, brought all their explosives and firearms there, etc. She has always been known as the crazy French chick, but she knew that Robert wasn't himself. One minute they're teasing each other about the baby's sex, the next he tricks her and tries to shoot her? She knew something was wrong. If she suspected something even before that, she could have split from the group.

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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2009, 04:41:26 PM »
I also think that they could have 2 camps. Just like the losties did. caves and beach.

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2009, 05:11:36 PM »
It could still be that they dug it out between the two flashes of time we saw. Perhaps the structure was pre-existing, and they dug it out only in the sense that Locke and Boone dug out the Swan Station (they did a ton of digging if you recall). There are a lot of ways the writers could keep Danielle's story on track, so we can really rule it as a flat out error yet. But it is certainly counter to what we might have expected.
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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO DANIELLE'S DUG OUT SHELTER
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2009, 06:23:30 PM »
well, two months did pass between landing on the island and Danielle shooting the team. They may have maintained two camps, been divided some how, moved back to the beach, or had a writer screw-up. :-\
I think it was a lot less then two months. Montan's arm was still in pretty good shape. I think you are right.....writer screwup.....it doesn't happen that often. We still love them!

For clarity purposes, here's the exact quote from Danielle:
DANIELLE: Our vessel was 3 days out of Tahiti when our instruments malfunctioned. It was night, a storm, the sounds. The ship slammed into rocks, ran aground, the hull breached beyond repair. So, we made camp, dug out this temporary shelter. Temporary. Nearly 2 months we survived here, 2 months before --
"Solitary" S1E9

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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO DANIELLE'S DUG OUT SHELTER
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2009, 06:28:12 PM »
well, two months did pass between landing on the island and Danielle shooting the team. They may have maintained two camps, been divided some how, moved back to the beach, or had a writer screw-up. :-\
I think it was a lot less then two months. Montan's arm was still in pretty good shape. I think you are right.....writer screwup.....it doesn't happen that often. We still love them!

For clarity purposes, here's the exact quote from Danielle:
DANIELLE: Our vessel was 3 days out of Tahiti when our instruments malfunctioned. It was night, a storm, the sounds. The ship slammed into rocks, ran aground, the hull breached beyond repair. So, we made camp, dug out this temporary shelter. Temporary. Nearly 2 months we survived here, 2 months before --
"Solitary" S1E9

exactly... i mean obviously her baby daddy was still there 2 months after the incident of being pulled in by the black smoke... the two dead dudes didn't look like they were dead for long... so between the black smoke and the beach scene, they dug out the shelter mentioned... then the symptoms began, leading to danielle killing them.

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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO DANIELLE'S DUG OUT SHELTER
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2009, 08:38:40 PM »
They could have dug it out BEFORE the incident with Smokey, then AFTER the incident, Danielle could have held herself up in the shelter while the other guys went to the beach camp. After all, sick people need supplies and a living area, too. :P

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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO DANIELLE'S DUG OUT SHELTER
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2009, 07:27:19 AM »
She also said that the others were the carriers of the disease.
She never saw them, but heared their whispers.

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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2009, 08:36:25 AM »
We know that Jin Flashed right after Smokey lures the men into the temple.   Let's say the flash was two months later.     We can only guess exactly how it happened in those two months, but it could have been something like this.


They go into the temple, she does not.   She goes back to the beach.   They come back to the beach some time later and tell her that everything's ok.   They digout the temporary shelter, and begin to try to convince her to go back to the temple.  She refuses.   They keep after her, but she keeps getting more suspicious.   Finally she takes the guns and leaves their dugout shelter, heads to the beach to be away from them.   Two of them come to try to take her by force to the temple and she shoots them, piling their bodies on the beach.   Her husband comes, and says "it's all right"...he tries to shoot her, but she has removed the firing pin from his gun.    She shoots him (with Jin watching from afar)....story complete.

Rather than show us everything, they just showed the beginning and the end of the 2 month period.    The blanks can be filled in without too much trouble.

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Re: WHAT HAPPENED TO DANIELLE'S DUG OUT SHELTER
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2009, 12:12:55 PM »
We know that Jin Flashed right after Smokey lures the men into the temple.   Let's say the flash was two months later.     We can only guess exactly how it happened in those two months, but it could have been something like this.


They go into the temple, she does not.   She goes back to the beach.   They come back to the beach some time later and tell her that everything's ok.   They digout the temporary shelter, and begin to try to convince her to go back to the temple.  She refuses.   They keep after her, but she keeps getting more suspicious.   Finally she takes the guns and leaves their dugout shelter, heads to the beach to be away from them.   Two of them come to try to take her by force to the temple and she shoots them, piling their bodies on the beach.   Her husband comes, and says "it's all right"...he tries to shoot her, but she has removed the firing pin from his gun.    She shoots him (with Jin watching from afar)....story complete.
Rather than show us everything, they just showed the beginning and the end of the 2 month period.    The blanks can be filled in without too much trouble.
It's all possible except for the timing between the shooting of the other two men and the shooting of Robert.  Jin reacted to the strong smell coming off the two dead men before he was next to them which would indicate that decomp had begun.  I think there was a decent amount of time between the shooting of the two men (or at least the first of the two men... someone was stinkin' the joint up) and the shooting of Robert.  So, maybe Robert had been back in the hole prior to his demise at the hands of Danielle.