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Offline jugdish

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Re: Hanso?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2009, 02:38:09 PM »
A lot of it is from the on line games. Here is what Lostpedia says.

The Hanso Foundation is an organization founded by Alvar Hanso, aiming to "reach out to a better tomorrow" by researching ways to preserve human life and promote well-being. It was established approximately around the 1960s, with Alvar oddly moving from a successful background in munitions selling and weapons armament to becoming a philanthropic entrepreneur. Among other projects, the Foundation also financed the DHARMA Initiative.

Most of the information about the Foundation was acquired from The Lost Experience, though there have been some references to the company on the show. The Foundation's headquarters is located in Copenhagen, Denmark.

While the company often goes by the name "Hanso Foundation" for seemingly altruistic projects, the name "Hanso Group" is sometimes also used, seemingly for purely business and industrial ventures. This includes control over the Apollo Candy Company and Allied Copenhagen Marine Merchants.


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Re: Hanso?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2009, 03:15:36 PM »
My theory - Hanso doesn't exist.  The only real evidence for his existence is the Swan station orientation film.  After Pierre Chang's performance last week, I personally think a lot of what's in the orientation films is made up.  The rest of the evidence is the mention of him on the blast door map - but the map was drawn by Kelvin(?) who only knows of Hanso through the orientation film - everything else Kelvin knew or thought he knew is based on that film plus whatever he thinks he's derived from whatever other tidbits of info he's come across. 

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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2009, 03:24:22 PM »
Well, the Hanso referenced on the blast door was Magnus Hanso, not Alvar. I was thinking that Widmore and Hanso are the same, but I don't think that would make much sense.

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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2009, 05:10:21 PM »
Just throwing this out for conversation...... For whatever reason young Mr. Widmore ,be it by force or choice,leaves the island with knowledge of this "special place". Mr. Hanso made his empire in munnitions and Charles has knowledge of an H Bomb dropped on the island. With a little research he could put the two together. He approaches Hanso with tales of a "mystical" island that has special properties. Hanso still not moved until Widmore gives specific information in regards to Jughead and the crew sent looking for it as well as information about the Black Rock. Hanso would view the island as a place to conduct taboo and quasi-scientific research. Widmore and Hanso begin recruiting for the start up of DI. All is going well until the purge. Now that leads to how Widmore selects his freighter team specialists because he met them in 1954. He understands because it did happen that it must happen in the future and this is why he funded Farraday's research. Or maybe not.


This does make sense, but the problem I see with it is that young Widmore is apparently very oppossed to outsiders on the island, so why would he want to help fund the projects of the DI???
Wealthy people like to be wealthier. The research Hanso and DI were involved with could be very lucrative if they maintained control of the island. Not to mention a young Widmore may not have enough wealth to engage Hanso in a financial battle for the island circa the early 1970s. Imagine Widmore describing an ageless guyliner wearing Richard to Hanso and thus the "life extension" program begins.

Nobody said he was wealthy on the island,
I think somehow something said to him in the past by one of the timejumpers promptas him to make his money after the leaves the island

Some might argue "but then that changes the future"  But no it doesnt, because someone fromthe future came back and told him something that would make him mony off island,  it didnt happen untill the future but in his timeline it was the past.

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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2009, 04:33:10 AM »
Right, but I get the sense that Widmore is all about getting back to the island to lay a claim. The idea that the research would lead to extreme fiduciary gain does make sense, but it seems to me that the less people there the better, regardless of the reason they have to be there.

Triple word score!

Ok, so Widmore leaves the Island. Who knows why? Maybe his girlfriend got knocked up?, maybe he had to report for duty elsewhere? Maybe something threatened the integrity of the Island. Regardless, Widmore leaves, goes back to the "real world" and knows about this potentially highly lucrative Island that he can use as leverage to gain momentum in his career. We know he is an ambitious man. Widmore knows the Island, and of the Black Rock. He then approaches Hanso with a business proposal to recover(?) the shipwreck w/ Hanso. (Or some other such idea.) Hanso bites and funds Widmore. This is when Widmore "steals" the Island from Hanso, like Ben will do to Widmore. Hanso & Widmore go into business funding scientific research and start the D.I.

As Hanso becomes more and more obsolete to Widmore, Widmore phases Hanso out. Widmore takes on the leadership of the D.I. and ousts Hanso. The D.I., who is almost entirely comprised of others and recruits at this point, has a change in leadership. But they have alienated their core, the natives. (What happened between the natives and the DHARMA INITIATIVE?) A young unknown member of the others and the D.I. comes to power with the others. That's right! Benjamin Linus. Ben will steal the Island from Widmore and the power struggle for the promise land ensues...

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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2009, 03:57:33 PM »
Right, but I get the sense that Widmore is all about getting back to the island to lay a claim. The idea that the research would lead to extreme fiduciary gain does make sense, but it seems to me that the less people there the better, regardless of the reason they have to be there.

Triple word score!

Ok, so Widmore leaves the Island. Who knows why? Maybe his girlfriend got knocked up?, maybe he had to report for duty elsewhere? Maybe something threatened the integrity of the Island. Regardless, Widmore leaves, goes back to the "real world" and knows about this potentially highly lucrative Island that he can use as leverage to gain momentum in his career. We know he is an ambitious man. Widmore knows the Island, and of the Black Rock. He then approaches Hanso with a business proposal to recover(?) the shipwreck w/ Hanso. (Or some other such idea.) Hanso bites and funds Widmore. This is when Widmore "steals" the Island from Hanso, like Ben will do to Widmore. Hanso & Widmore go into business funding scientific research and start the D.I.

As Hanso becomes more and more obsolete to Widmore, Widmore phases Hanso out. Widmore takes on the leadership of the D.I. and ousts Hanso. The D.I., who is almost entirely comprised of others and recruits at this point, has a change in leadership. But they have alienated their core, the natives. (What happened between the natives and the DHARMA INITIATIVE?) A young unknown member of the others and the D.I. comes to power with the others. That's right! Benjamin Linus. Ben will steal the Island from Widmore and the power struggle for the promise land ensues...

It's one of my favorite words.

And also, wow. So you're saying that (in your theory) when Widmore is in charge of the DI, it is already made up of "Others" and the people they have recruited?? Wouldn't that have made Ben subservient to Widmore??

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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2009, 09:52:41 PM »
We can trace Ben back to the D.I. and the separate entity of the natives. We can associate Widmore with the others and Hanso. Hanso went into business with the D.I. and had some stake in the D.I.'S work. Is it logical to assume that at one point in time, perhaps right before the purge, that Widmore had some how manipulated control of the Island and Ben "purged" the Island of Widmore's old allies.

On the other hand, Widmore was on the Island with Richard & the natives before Ben was even born. Maybe Ben's taking over leadership of the natives is what Widmore means that Ben "stole" the Island from him.

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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2009, 10:49:29 AM »
We can trace Ben back to the D.I. and the separate entity of the natives. We can associate Widmore with the others and Hanso. Hanso went into business with the D.I. and had some stake in the D.I.'S work. Is it logical to assume that at one point in time, perhaps right before the purge, that Widmore had some how manipulated control of the Island and Ben "purged" the Island of Widmore's old allies.

On the other hand, Widmore was on the Island with Richard & the natives before Ben was even born. Maybe Ben's taking over leadership of the natives is what Widmore means that Ben "stole" the Island from him.

We can associate Widmore with Hanso?? How??