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Walt has to go back too!
« on: June 01, 2008, 07:31:06 PM »
When Walt visited Hurley he told him that Jeremy Bentham visited him.
Why would Locke do that?

My guess is that he wanted Walt to go back too!
Per request of Jacob maybe?

Thought's?

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2008, 07:53:29 PM »
I think if Walt had to go "baaaack" then Ben might have mentioned it to Jack.

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2008, 08:04:13 PM »
This is one of those ideas where the more you think about it the more confusing it gets, well to me anyway :P

In the time Locke was on the Island, after the O6 leave, the Island is 'moved' etc upto him leaving did he find out all the answers, such as why they wanted Walt, why they were considered 'special', why Walt 'appeared' to him while he was in the pit of Dharma bodies etc?
Im mulling over a doppelganger situation, the black vs white, good vs evil idea. Is there still a variant of Walt on the Island, the one who visited Locke, and the two have to be reunited? If this was the case is there a variant of other people on the Island and in the real world too?
If Locke was going under a different name why wasnt Walt? It wouldnt take long for people to realise Walt was on the plane too, questions would be asked as to how he survived etc.. (or has this already been answered and I missed it?)

To me it has to be one of 2 theories, either dopplegangers/ farmilliars  or simply (I know its not 'simple' :)) ghosts?
Ghost Walt on the Island, ghost Christian, Charlie etc off the Island visiting Jack, Hurley etc...

Basically I would have thought Locke has learnt why Walt was wanted by the Others, his special abilities etc and so may have visited Walt in much the same way that Richard visited Locke as a child, to see if he was ready?

And yes, I would have though Locke wanted Walt to return, maybe why he didnt tell him Michael was dead - after all it was Jacob/ Christian who 'allowed' Michael to die so i presume Locke knew but led Walt to believe he was still alive to give him a reason to want to go back?

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2008, 08:07:27 PM »
This is one of those ideas where the more you think about it the more confusing it gets, well to me anyway :P
That's why I don't think about them that much :D

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2008, 08:11:12 PM »
 ;D  I find paracetamol help...

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2008, 09:43:32 PM »
regardless either or.....

we know who they say NEED to go back, thats not to say that more can't go with them...

only weird thing is that Walt, and perhaps Claire, have appeared on the island when not actually dead...
difference is that the others who have appeared like Christian and Eckos bro and Boone are (practically) confirmed dead...

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2008, 04:12:01 AM »
This is one of those ideas where the more you think about it the more confusing it gets, well to me anyway :P

In the time Locke was on the Island, after the O6 leave, the Island is 'moved' etc upto him leaving did he find out all the answers, such as why they wanted Walt, why they were considered 'special', why Walt 'appeared' to him while he was in the pit of Dharma bodies etc?
Im mulling over a doppelganger situation, the black vs white, good vs evil idea. Is there still a variant of Walt on the Island, the one who visited Locke, and the two have to be reunited? If this was the case is there a variant of other people on the Island and in the real world too?
If Locke was going under a different name why wasnt Walt? It wouldnt take long for people to realise Walt was on the plane too, questions would be asked as to how he survived etc.. (or has this already been answered and I missed it?)

To me it has to be one of 2 theories, either dopplegangers/ farmilliars  or simply (I know its not 'simple' :)) ghosts?
Ghost Walt on the Island, ghost Christian, Charlie etc off the Island visiting Jack, Hurley etc...

Basically I would have thought Locke has learnt why Walt was wanted by the Others, his special abilities etc and so may have visited Walt in much the same way that Richard visited Locke as a child, to see if he was ready?

And yes, I would have though Locke wanted Walt to return, maybe why he didnt tell him Michael was dead - after all it was Jacob/ Christian who 'allowed' Michael to die so i presume Locke knew but led Walt to believe he was still alive to give him a reason to want to go back?


The "ghost" Walt confuses me the most.  Most of the "ghosts" are dead people, but Walt is alive and he appeared on the Island while living in NY?  Another question to add to the long list of questions I have I guess.

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2008, 08:15:53 AM »
I believe that it has to do with his special abilllities.
I don't think it's a ghost or that Jacob is doing it.
We know little of it, but from what we've seen these past seasons i'm betting that it includes mental or even physical projection. (or he used a jedi-mindtrick on locke)

How else would he have done it?

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2008, 09:12:56 AM »
Bea asked if Michael had ever seen Walt in a place where he wasn't supposed to be.
Shannon and Sayid saw Walt when he was hold by the others.
Walt can be in 2 places at the same time or project himself.
Locke saw Walt, but when he saw him he was taller.
Locke saw the Walt of 2007 not the Walt of 2003.
In 2007 Locke has learned about Walt's abilities.
So I think Locke visits Walt in 2007 to ask him to appear to him on the island in 2003 to
warn him that the freighters are bad and that he has work to do.
 ???

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2008, 11:33:55 AM »
Lost = the ultimate choose your own adventure book! I loved those things as a kid.

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2008, 11:49:38 AM »
When Walt visited Hurley he told him that Jeremy Bentham visited him.
Why would Locke do that?

My guess is that he wanted Walt to go back too!
Per request of Jacob maybe?

Thought's?

Maybe he just wanted to play Backgammon for old time's sake.

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2008, 02:12:46 PM »
Bea asked if Michael had ever seen Walt in a place where he wasn't supposed to be.
Shannon and Sayid saw Walt when he was hold by the others.
Walt can be in 2 places at the same time or project himself.
Locke saw Walt, but when he saw him he was taller.
Locke saw the Walt of 2007 not the Walt of 2003.
In 2007 Locke has learned about Walt's abilities.
So I think Locke visits Walt in 2007 to ask him to appear to him on the island in 2003 to
warn him that the freighters are bad and that he has work to do.
 ???

Yep, that must be it!!!

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2008, 04:29:21 PM »
Bea asked if Michael had ever seen Walt in a place where he wasn't supposed to be.
Shannon and Sayid saw Walt when he was hold by the others.
Walt can be in 2 places at the same time or project himself.
Locke saw Walt, but when he saw him he was taller.
Locke saw the Walt of 2007 not the Walt of 2003.
In 2007 Locke has learned about Walt's abilities.
So I think Locke visits Walt in 2007 to ask him to appear to him on the island in 2003 to
warn him that the freighters are bad and that he has work to do.
 ???


Wow, Im totally buying that theory! Great ideas.

Still confusing how/why Christian, Yemi, Charlie etc appear? Can Jacob do the same as Walt only on a bigger scale?
Is Jacob actually like Walt, in the future, off the Island, trying to guide them how best to save the Island? That is why he appears as a ghost?

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 05:59:49 PM »
This is one of those ideas where the more you think about it the more confusing it gets, well to me anyway :P

In the time Locke was on the Island, after the O6 leave, the Island is 'moved' etc upto him leaving did he find out all the answers, such as why they wanted Walt, why they were considered 'special', why Walt 'appeared' to him while he was in the pit of Dharma bodies etc?
Im mulling over a doppelganger situation, the black vs white, good vs evil idea. Is there still a variant of Walt on the Island, the one who visited Locke, and the two have to be reunited? If this was the case is there a variant of other people on the Island and in the real world too?
If Locke was going under a different name why wasnt Walt? It wouldnt take long for people to realise Walt was on the plane too, questions would be asked as to how he survived etc.. (or has this already been answered and I missed it?)

To me it has to be one of 2 theories, either dopplegangers/ farmilliars  or simply (I know its not 'simple' :)) ghosts?
Ghost Walt on the Island, ghost Christian, Charlie etc off the Island visiting Jack, Hurley etc...

Basically I would have thought Locke has learnt why Walt was wanted by the Others, his special abilities etc and so may have visited Walt in much the same way that Richard visited Locke as a child, to see if he was ready?

And yes, I would have though Locke wanted Walt to return, maybe why he didnt tell him Michael was dead - after all it was Jacob/ Christian who 'allowed' Michael to die so i presume Locke knew but led Walt to believe he was still alive to give him a reason to want to go back?


The "ghost" Walt confuses me the most.  Most of the "ghosts" are dead people, but Walt is alive and he appeared on the Island while living in NY?  Another question to add to the long list of questions I have I guess.
According to Ms. Klugh, Walt is "able to appear in places where he shouldn't be".  Walt is not a ghost or dead or anything, but has special abilities to project himself.  Why he is doing it, no one understands at this point.

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Re: Walt has to go back too!
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2008, 06:18:01 PM »
What I think I was trying to get at - could Jacob be 'alive' and well in the real world but 'projecting' himself back to the Island (sometimes as different people)  like Walt did, trying to save the Island.
Maybe Jacob has the ability too, and while he cant pysically do anything on the Island, he appoints a leader to do his work for him, maybe he too is unable to return to the Island and so is bidding from the outside via the power of projective thought?