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Offline LostinLock

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #60 on: April 30, 2008, 10:20:28 PM »

Watch this episode again, as Widmore told Benjamin that the island is his and will be again.  He also told Ben he would never find Penny...then he said the hunt is on for the both of us.


So, you reckon Penny's on the Island?

I had actually considered that she is on the island.  But I posted on another thread that since Widmore has enough money she is at the Monastery thus bringing back Mrs. Hawkins and the Monk that was in the picture with her.  Remember that is where she met Desmond and somehow Mrs. Hawkins and the monk have something to do with what is going on.

As for Widmore being part of the island prior to Dharma is also an agreeable thought and something I have thought about.

Maybe they could teleport prior to Dharma and that is how Widmore became wealthy.  There are so many roads to walk down.

I also do not believe that Penny and her father are enemies.  How does he know if she made contact with him on Christmas Eve unless she told him and if she did then he has made arrangements to put her far away from the lurking danger of Benjamin.

Yet another chapter and tomorrow night we will be, at least on the East Coast, sititng and watch the show right now.

Well. we shall see.


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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #61 on: May 01, 2008, 03:35:53 PM »
Maybe Hawking has forseen that Penny is in danger from Ben and has informed Widmore.
After all, Widmore didnt seen surprised that Ben visited him, Hawking could have told him to expect a visit - im begining to think that Hawking has a HUGE part in all of this and how the Losties ended up on Flight 815.

Edited to add: I just re-watched the Ben/ Widmore scene, Widmore states 'I wondered when you would show up' suggesting to me that he was indeed expecting a visit.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2008, 03:47:58 PM by Rebel 3:16 »

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #62 on: May 01, 2008, 03:52:20 PM »
Expecting him in every way - that's what makes their rivalry so interesting.  They are each other's alter ego.

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #63 on: May 01, 2008, 05:07:57 PM »
Well, I'll keep an open mind, but so far we've seen Hawking, not just her pic, but her, in exactly one epi....

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #64 on: May 01, 2008, 06:56:52 PM »
(Maybe Ben & Widmore can't kill each other because they are each other's constant!  Somehow...)


Brilliant answer!

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #65 on: May 01, 2008, 09:01:28 PM »
Welcome Kricket!!

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #66 on: May 01, 2008, 09:35:35 PM »
Hi guys

If this was already mentioed forgive me...
could Widmore be part of the Black Rock crew
or even an original hostile? (other) (which would explain that it was "his" island to begine with)

The only real mystery to me is why he can't find the island again.  I mean he has obviously just found it and sent the freighter people... does the island change locations?  Do the bearings leading on and off the island change?
Is it another time?  ARG!!!
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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #67 on: May 01, 2008, 09:43:14 PM »
I'm pretty sure it's not another time as that's been disproved again and again.

As for the rest, we (and you, I'm sure) are discussing all those issues, but I can sum up our conclusions in three little words.

WE DON'T KNOW.

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #68 on: May 01, 2008, 09:49:02 PM »
LOL the story of our lives with this show....

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #69 on: May 01, 2008, 10:02:00 PM »
DON'T ADMIT IT!

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(That was a bear hug.)

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #70 on: May 01, 2008, 10:09:27 PM »
super huge VIBRATING bear hug back at you

 :-*{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{LAKLOST}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} :-*

I WANT ANSWERS DAMN IT

umm LOL like who doesn't right?

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #71 on: May 01, 2008, 10:10:43 PM »
Oh dear.  A vibrating hug.  I'm still shaking!!

You know what?  I have decided I don't want any answers from Lost.  I'm starting a revolution.  :D

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #72 on: May 02, 2008, 12:35:49 AM »
Oh dear.  A vibrating hug.  I'm still shaking!!

You know what?  I have decided I don't want any answers from Lost.  I'm starting a revolution.  :D
I'll join you.

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #73 on: May 02, 2008, 01:07:26 PM »
Many have pointed out the Widmore/Dharma connection and I'd like to propose a relationship that goes a step further.

I see the reltionship between Ben and Charles Widmore as similar to that of John Locke and Jack.  A man of faith vs a man of science.  When Charles was in control of the island via the Dharma initiative, it was to study the mysteries of the island through scientific research.  Then, after the purge, Ben and his crew wanted to study the island's spiritual side (via Jacob).  Their interpretations of the island's mysteries are their biggest difference.

Or am I crazy? :o)

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Re: Ben vs Widmore
« Reply #74 on: May 02, 2008, 02:28:08 PM »
Not crazy, Zeek, there's a thread on this very subject around here somewhere.

Personally, I think Widmore is more about money/power than about science, but I could be wrong.