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« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2008, 03:07:10 AM » |
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He was dragged out of the limo, and beat up a little and then pulled away. No clear evidence that he was killed, but Ben implied it.
Ben is a reason to me not believe the guy was killed. The little liar... 03. Tom returns to the island (presumably with Locke's father) and is later killed by Sawyer.
04. Without Tom around, the defenceless Arturo is kidnapped by Widmore. Surveillance footage is recorded by persons unknown.
Although Ben is able to radio the freighter from the line at the Barracks to the Looking Glass, I believe the video feed was "johnlocked" in the Flame, so I could guess it happened before Jack's rescue.
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« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2008, 09:10:53 AM » |
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Wow, I'm coming late to this. They look a lot alike to me. Could be nothing, could be something.
I've just skimmed the thread so forgive me if these ideas have already come out and I missed them.
If it is Arturo, it doesn't mean he's an Other. Could just be someone who does odd jobs for Ben off Island, including, um, entertaining Tom.
I see that Others have speculated that the beating occurred recently, but it would be interesting if it happened in the Meet Kevin Johnson timeframe. Maybe Tom's the videotaper.
On a side note, why was the Dead/Live Kelvin thread locked? Just seemed like harmless silliness to me....
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« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2008, 09:59:06 AM » |
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On a side note, why was the Dead/Live Kelvin thread locked? Just seemed like harmless silliness to me....
Yeah I don't understand that one and I didn't take a look see to figure out the issue, but perhaps it crossed a line
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« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2008, 01:41:34 PM » |
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On a side note, why was the Dead/Live Kelvin thread locked? Just seemed like harmless silliness to me....
Yeah I don't understand that one and I didn't take a look see to figure out the issue, but perhaps it crossed a line Go to the locked thread on (currently) page 2 of the Community Lounge for an answer.
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« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2008, 01:50:04 PM » |
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On a side note, why was the Dead/Live Kelvin thread locked? Just seemed like harmless silliness to me....
Yeah I don't understand that one and I didn't take a look see to figure out the issue, but perhaps it crossed a line Just like this one: http://lost.cubit.net/forum/index.php?topic=7699.msg378103#msg378103
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« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2008, 02:45:53 PM » |
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Yep understood--- sorry for having to walk me through that brothers, but ...I was being a bit lazy
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« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2008, 04:14:00 PM » |
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OK, I got it, locked because most recent posts were offtopic silliness. I guess I can see that. New people trying to find there way around might be put off when they read that kind of thing.
So... anyone else think Tom might be the videographer?
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« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2008, 04:32:03 PM » |
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OK, I got it, locked because most recent posts were offtopic silliness. I guess I can see that. New people trying to find there way around might be put off when they read that kind of thing.
So... anyone else think Tom might be the videographer?
Yeah I had mentioned that in either this thread or some other one... I think the video was a piece of ..
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« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2008, 08:49:51 AM » |
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I don't think Tom was the one taping, only because if that was Arturro, which seems to be the popular opinion (I don't agree, but what am I going to do), I don't think he would have just let it happen.
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« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2008, 04:43:03 PM » |
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You have a higher opinion of Tom than I.
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« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2008, 12:24:21 PM » |
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It also depends on whether Arturo was a long-term thing or a one-night stand. I'd think it was a one-night thing, especially with the name Arturo. I don't think that one of the higher-ups would have any ties to the mainland.
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« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2008, 01:58:51 PM » |
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It also depends on whether Arturo was a long-term thing or a one-night stand. I'd think it was a one-night thing, especially with the name Arturo. I don't think that one of the higher-ups would have any ties to the mainland.
Maybe Arturo is a anagram for "OUR RAT"
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« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2008, 09:29:43 PM » |
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It also depends on whether Arturo was a long-term thing or a one-night stand. I'd think it was a one-night thing, especially with the name Arturo. I don't think that one of the higher-ups would have any ties to the mainland.
whattheheck is that supposed to mean? LOL Have you been burned by an Arturo? 
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« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2008, 09:47:54 PM » |
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It seemed to me like Arturo was a one night thing too. It looks like him in that video, but he's probably just a patsy. Widmore probably thought he was a part of Ben's group, or Ben set him up to get caught by Widmore to get that footage.
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« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2008, 11:33:27 PM » |
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Maybe Ben had Arturo taken out because he thinks that Tom belongs to him too.
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