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Re: Chemical power plant?
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2008, 04:57:58 PM »
on a second watch, i paused just as juliet enters the lower level behind daniel and she walks by a machine with a bunch of buttons, and on the top of it says "box maker". what the hell does that mean? production error? or something interesting.

Did it really? That's what Ben called the place where Locke's Dad came from - I don't remember the exact line, but he definitely told Locke there was a "box" on the island where things appeared... ugh, wish I had the exact quote.

And it's a funny allusion to Locke's box company job too.

I'll go see if I can dig up a transcript. The "box maker" reference may be nothing, or it may just be an egg, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Ben needs to get Locke a DHARMA jumpsuit that says Box Maker. HAHA

I was wondering what chemical produces power also. We know that the Tempest had a vapor overload. Do they rely on chemical vapor, like a steam engine? I always assumed it was powered by electro-magnetic radiation that had somehow been harnessed.

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Re: Chemical power plant?
« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2008, 05:51:45 PM »
perchance power plant is just a ruse?
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Re: Chemical power plant?
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2008, 07:49:34 PM »
It was said by Harper that they were headed for the power station, so I would say that the Tempest is a power plant to run the island. The power plant uses chemicals (not known) instead of coal or nuclear. The intresting point about the Tempest is that one chemical that is used to "power" the island alone is dangerous enough to kill in a gas form. The chemicals used together make a reaction that cause the form of "power". D & C lied once again and it was done to deactivate the islands defense systems for when the freighter crew or others storm the island for the take over.

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« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2008, 08:03:45 PM »
Well, it would have been harder to convince Juliet and Jack to do anything if she'd said Dan and Char were headed to the poison gas factory to deactivate the gas.

I don't know whether it's a power station or not, but I don't think we can trust Miss Harper.

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Re: Chemical power plant?
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2008, 10:18:30 PM »
according to Podcast
The Other Woman - What is the use of the Tempest? Are the hatches important?
D&C: They joke about the Arrow hatch, but confirm that they all have some importance and that the Tempest is a very important hatch on the island. This episode was their way of telling us about some of the island's history via Juliet's past on the island. To show us how the Dharma Initative was potentially gassed. Dharma was working on Biological weapons, but are not necessarily bad.

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Re: Chemical power plant?
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2008, 10:23:48 PM »
Bet you a soda that the Orchid is behind a secret door in the Arrow.

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Re: Chemical power plant?
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2008, 12:56:00 AM »
I'll take your soda and raise you one!

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« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2008, 01:36:26 AM »
Two unrelated thoughts:
After years of speculation on how they may be supplying power to the island (remember Ben saying something like, it was a rat running on a tread mill?  :D) we get an answer.

I thought he said it was a hamster   ???

Hamster Power!!

Was it really a power plant? THought that was a lie. Didn't they say he used it to poison the Dharma people during the purge.

Wasn't there a discussion/theory/coverup about the government doing testing and dropping stuff/chemicals/drugs into the subway system in N.Y. and/or other places?  (years and years and years ago - yes, I'm asking the Ancient Ones to help me out here)  :P
Just wondering about the capabilities Ben (or whomever) might have if the chemicals are portable and he has access to time travel . . . possibly what DHARMA had begun to study?

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Re: Chemical power plant?
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2008, 08:36:51 AM »
according to Podcast
The Other Woman - What is the use of the Tempest? Are the hatches important?
D&C: They joke about the Arrow hatch, but confirm that they all have some importance and that the Tempest is a very important hatch on the island. This episode was their way of telling us about some of the island's history via Juliet's past on the island. To show us how the Dharma Initative was potentially gassed. Dharma was working on Biological weapons, but are not necessarily bad.

What is not bad? The biological weapons or DHARMA? If I remember correctly, from the original Oceanic Air site, I read a screen cap in which the NSA sent a letter to the TSA saying cease looking for 815 because the presumed area the plane went down was related to National Security work/testing in that region.
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Re: Chemical power plant?
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2008, 09:50:51 AM »
I'll take your soda and raise you one!

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Re: Chemical power plant?
« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2008, 04:44:55 PM »
Kind of funny that Daniel can't remember three cards, but is very skilled at using a 1975ish computer to shut down a overload in a chemical plant that is unique to an island that no one has seen before.

I'm fairly convinced that Daniel has done some Desmond-time-hopping of his own since he was exposed to so much radiation during all his tests ("What do you put on your head, brother?") and that explains:

1) Why Desmond can be his constant. I don't think their brief interaction in Desmond's alternate 1996 could be enough to make Desmond "special" enough to Daniel to be Daniel's constant. Maybe they interacted in one of Daniel's time trips and became close enough that he could be his constant, and that's why he made the note in his journal. I still don't think Daniel "remembers" Desmond visiting him in 1996 - I believe that happened in an alternate timeline and that Desmond's trip to 1996 didn't change the current timeline we're in.

2) Why Daniel has trouble remembering. During Desmond's episode, there were lot of quotes like "It's not amnesia" and "Maybe you just forgot - how would that happen?" in reference to Desmond's 1996 mind not remembering anything from 2004 and Daniel on the island not remembering Desmond from 1996. Maybe the time-jumping of the mind screws with the ability to make memories. But things you knew from a long time ago are probably in tact.


Why Desmond can be his constant.

Why couldnt desmond be his constant,  if I were a scientist and somone came back from the future and gave me the exact settings that I was unable to discover myself,  that would make Des pretty special in my eyes,

What I noticed from the episode "constant" was that Des was not "OK" until he actually spoke to penny, even though he knew she existed in 2004 he was not set straight untill thier conversation,  We know that because right after he made contact with her he told her about the Island and until that point was adamant he was in 1996

I think (it has not been shown so much) that daniel is now "ok/ perfect" now also,  But not until he saw desmonds name in his journal,  oncde he saw desmonds name it straightened him out so to speak,  I dont claim to know how or why the writers would send the story this way  and I cant say I like it or can explain it, but I hope it is revealed sooner rather than later

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Re: Chemical power plant?
« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2008, 05:14:13 PM »
I agree squirt, Danny Boy might just be ok now, the little we saw of him in this past epi did not really show one way or another...
but I hope and it seems as though he will be okay,

does this mean he is now going to see the light if'n he is workin' on the bad side o' the track?

what comes, what comes from pro'ly my fav character to be added thus far....?
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« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2008, 06:00:42 PM »
I agree squirt, Danny Boy might just be ok now, the little we saw of him in this past epi did not really show one way or another...
but I hope and it seems as though he will be okay,

does this mean he is now going to see the light if'n he is workin' on the bad side o' the track?

what comes, what comes from pro'ly my fav character to be added thus far....?

*nods, agreeing with Staggerlee*  :D
I'm wondering if there's going to be a showdown between Charlotte (booo) and Daniel (sees the light and does the right thing)??
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Re: Chemical power plant?
« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2008, 06:16:23 PM »
A showdown would prove interesting, though i would like to see her stick around a bit, no nikki stuff with her please!
We need another face of an antagonist, and with all the ballyhoo (did i really use that word!!! what am i like 80 or something?)
regarding her name and what not which may or may not amount to anything. Ben and Widdy are good antagonists, but another face is needed, yes we have Harper,
(no pun is intended there...MOLE!!!! ok I really will stop now....) regardless Char's story could lead in some fascinating directions, some hinted at around here (her history w/ the island, her purpose etc.).

Dan's trajectory seems really most interesting, in regards the true science being referenced within the show, and him being sane might answer a few questions, though insane will be missed...
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Re: Chemical power plant?
« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2008, 06:57:56 PM »
Yes, I can see Char and Danny kind of see-sawing for a bit to keep us on our toes (refrains from puns about four-toed whazzits).

Is there a good Char/bad Char, kinda like we felt about Ben for awhile (well some did).

And Danny may waffle with being in touch with reality for a bit ... seemed like there was something more when Juliet confronted him ... besides recognition after landing on the island.  Can't wait to find out who was making his dinner in the flashforward.   :o

*wonders if Ballyhoo is a reference to Bali Hai*