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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #90 on: March 10, 2008, 09:33:51 AM »
can I thow my 2 pennies in the pot?

Remember way back when... Alpert appeared to Little Boy Ben and told him the back story about there being people on the Island before Dharma arrived, and yet Dharma and the originals got on together... Surely Richard was not the only Island Original... (And there's the Black Rock crew too don't forget who may actually be one and the same as the Natives if the life extention projects turn out to be real)

What if Freaky Eyebrow woman (Harper) is an Original Islander like Alpert (similar over-enhanced facial features ;) ) She too appears where and when she chooses because they are natives.... It's THEIR island...

I think the Smokie thing is either an island original too (sentient yes, cognitive yes, human form no) or perhaps even the result of some Dharma experiment gone wrong similar to the monster on Forbidden Planet. I don't think it is controlled by anyone in particular... perhaps 'tamed' by the Natives i.e Smokie.. go fetch...

I bet Ben wishes he was in control of it - that would give him power.

Here endeth todays ramblings....

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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #91 on: March 10, 2008, 09:50:44 AM »
That's a great theory.  It all makes since.

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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #92 on: March 10, 2008, 12:18:24 PM »
Am going to mark this one, do not remember the Alpert visit, will go back and watch, but it passes Occam's Test...
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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #93 on: March 10, 2008, 06:19:48 PM »
Jacob summoned the smoke monster in the form of creepy mole woman.  End of discussion.

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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #94 on: March 10, 2008, 10:04:50 PM »
Jacob summoned the smoke monster in the form of creepy mole woman.  End of discussion.

So we should all stop talking?  ??? :D

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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #95 on: March 10, 2008, 10:15:44 PM »
I'm skeered.  Hold me?

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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #96 on: March 10, 2008, 10:50:39 PM »
buuuuuuut, did he/she/it manifest itself as the mole, or was that just a byproduct of the manifestation process...could her uncanny resemblance to Jocelyn Wildenstein and priscilla presley have to do with his smokiness or is that yet again a byproduct...wheeeeew (swipe of hand across forehead) there is SOOOOOOO much more to discuss...... ;)
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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #97 on: March 10, 2008, 11:48:11 PM »
 :o  the mole! it's spreading into other threads!  Save yourselves! :D

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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #98 on: March 11, 2008, 08:38:10 AM »
Jacob summoned the smoke monster in the form of creepy mole woman.  End of discussion.
I'm skeered.  Hold me?
buuuuuuut, did he/she/it manifest itself as the mole, or was that just a byproduct of the manifestation process...could her uncanny resemblance to Jocelyn Wildenstein and priscilla presley have to do with his smokiness or is that yet again a byproduct...wheeeeew (swipe of hand across forehead) there is SOOOOOOO much more to discuss...... ;)
:o  the mole! it's spreading into other threads!  Save yourselves! :D
Deleted scene from "The Other Woman" through a contact who knows somebody who knows nobody:

Camera pans to a sleeping Harper then pulls back to reveal Ben standing over her.

Ben               : You summoned me. I am here.
Unknown Voice: Help me.
Ben               : Jacob, is that you?
Unknown Voice: Help me leave this place.
Ben               : I cannot.
Unknown Voice: Help me.
Ben               : We only have a fertility Dr. and a Neurosurgeon.
Unknown Voice: Disarm "the fence" and bring him to me.
Ben               : You know it is not of my control.
Unknown Voive: Her resemblance to Jocelyn Wildenstein and Priscilla Presley is unerving.
                      I must leave this place. He can move me.
Ben               : Where mole where?
Unknown Voice: Onto Juliet.
Ben Angrily     : NEVER, JULIET IS MINE!

 ;) ;D :o

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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #99 on: March 11, 2008, 10:16:24 AM »
muchas gracias!!!  you said it perfectly in the other thread:

"...but damn sometimes we just gotta have fun and not destroy the entertainment value of our beloved TV show through overanalyzation."

as the Monty's say....

"And now for something completely different."


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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #100 on: March 11, 2008, 12:42:48 PM »
Wow this thread has really progressed since I last read it.

Good work guys!  8)

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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #101 on: March 11, 2008, 12:48:34 PM »
The podcast pretty much settled the question.

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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #102 on: March 11, 2008, 06:49:58 PM »
Jacob summoned the smoke monster in the form of creepy mole woman.  End of discussion.
I'm skeered.  Hold me?
buuuuuuut, did he/she/it manifest itself as the mole, or was that just a byproduct of the manifestation process...could her uncanny resemblance to Jocelyn Wildenstein and priscilla presley have to do with his smokiness or is that yet again a byproduct...wheeeeew (swipe of hand across forehead) there is SOOOOOOO much more to discuss...... ;)
:o  the mole! it's spreading into other threads!  Save yourselves! :D
Deleted scene from "The Other Woman" through a contact who knows somebody who knows nobody:

Camera pans to a sleeping Harper then pulls back to reveal Ben standing over her.

Ben               : You summoned me. I am here.
Unknown Voice: Help me.
Ben               : Jacob, is that you?
Unknown Voice: Help me leave this place.
Ben               : I cannot.
Unknown Voice: Help me.
Ben               : We only have a fertility Dr. and a Neurosurgeon.
Unknown Voice: Disarm "the fence" and bring him to me.
Ben               : You know it is not of my control.
Unknown Voive: Her resemblance to Jocelyn Wildenstein and Priscilla Presley is unerving.
                      I must leave this place. He can move me.
Ben               : Where mole where?
Unknown Voice: Onto Juliet.
Ben Angrily     : NEVER, JULIET IS MINE!

 ;) ;D :o
ROFL  You rock.   ;D

The podcast pretty much settled the question.
ARGHHH!!!  I can't listen right now!  What did it say??  PM me or put it in spoilers.

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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #103 on: March 11, 2008, 07:03:55 PM »
I just listened. They implied very strongly that Harper is alive and we'll see her again this season.

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Re: So Mister Benjamin Linus..... and his buddy Smokey
« Reply #104 on: March 11, 2008, 10:31:30 PM »
can I thow my 2 pennies in the pot?

Remember way back when... Alpert appeared to Little Boy Ben and told him the back story about there being people on the Island before Dharma arrived, and yet Dharma and the originals got on together... Surely Richard was not the only Island Original... (And there's the Black Rock crew too don't forget who may actually be one and the same as the Natives if the life extention projects turn out to be real)

What if Freaky Eyebrow woman (Harper) is an Original Islander like Alpert (similar over-enhanced facial features ;) ) She too appears where and when she chooses because they are natives.... It's THEIR island...
I think the Smokie thing is either an island original too (sentient yes, cognitive yes, human form no) or perhaps even the result of some Dharma experiment gone wrong similar to the monster on Forbidden Planet. I don't think it is controlled by anyone in particular... perhaps 'tamed' by the Natives i.e Smokie.. go fetch...

I bet Ben wishes he was in control of it - that would give him power.

Here endeth todays ramblings....

Dizzy, you's so smart!  I love that idea.