8 survived crash, but 2 died

[KRLJ]

Agreed. Cover. But kinda far fetched, that the doctor wasn't the one providing first aid to the survivors.  

I'm guessing they made a deal with whoever perpetrated the cover up plane wreckage.  Perhaps the same cabal owns Oceanic, and the big payoffs were part of the deal.

Chances are that the cover story has Claire one of the 8 who survived, but probably also saying she died, but not before making Kate promise to raise Aaron.  The world would know that Aaron couldn't possibly be Aaron's mother, as everyone knew she was not pregnant and in handcuffs on the plane.  The other person who survived the crash but died later is, obviously, the marshall, as Jack said on the stand.

In Jack's story, he says that he was injured himself and that's why Kate was the 'heroine'.
I think this is definately the cover story that they now have to live by. Somebody realized that if they played Kate off as a hero, saving people left and right, they knew that she would get off easy. Nobody wants to send a poor plane-wreck-surviving-hero to jail.

[jumbotron]

Jack said the Marshall died in the crash and that he never met him... nothing about dying after the crash.  If Charlie is one of the survivors because of the contact with Penny they're story of almost starving to death on a deserted island won't hold up for long. 

My guess is Claire is one and another that we probably have no reason to know about yet. 

It's getting late this is hurting my brain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheGoodPeople]

Jack said the Marshall died in the crash and that he never met him... nothing about dying after the crash. 

Yeah, right?

[CaseyMac]

i thought jack said the marshall died in the crash. and i thought kate was passing off the baby as her own.

Yeah I think you are right. Kate seemed to be passing Aaron off as her own, hence the whole "deal" scene with her mother. I don't know if Kate's mom would do a 180 and offer not to testify if she thought Kate had adopted Aaron. Plus, that was one of the best Ah-Ha moments, when I was fully expecting her to say "James".

[TheGoodPeople]

i thought jack said the marshall died in the crash. and i thought Kate was passing off the baby as her own.

Yeah I think you are right. Kate seemed to be passing Aaron off as her own, hence the whole "deal" scene with her mother. I don't know if Kate's mom would do a 180 and offer not to testify if she thought Kate had adopted Aaron. Plus, that was one of the best Ah-Ha moments, when I was fully expecting her to say "James".

yeah i think shes passing Arron off as her own cause she doesn't want people to know the real reason she has Aaron. (whatever that may be)

[Lion of Atreides]

Yup. Misheard. Strike the marshall from the list. And if they want to minimize suspicion that Kate's baby is not her own, they wouldn't say that Claire, who was pregnant at the time, survived the crash.  Better to say she's at the bottom of the ocean.

Brilliant observation, that Kate's mom wouldn't have been so eager to see her grandchild if she/the world knew he wasn't Kate's biological child.

[Blackrock Bob]

If we count Aaron as an O6, then I would guess one would be Jin.
Sun has to be rescued or her father would be all over the O6. She also will die on the island since she is pregnant.
Sun's father has be involved somehow.

I have no guess for the second person.

[firemanandlostfan]

i agree something tragic and unexpected happens to Claire and Kate is forced to become a stand in mom.  I thought they made a huge point of that this week when Clair asked Kate to pick Aaron up when they were hanging the laundry out to dry (used all the good dryers in the hatches or what?)

[Blackrock Bob]

Jack is a spinal surgeon. He is a great character witness.
I agree that there was a cover story that they all used.
I find it very odd that Jack was the one that saved people, but he didn't get any credit.
And his life fell apart while Kate got her act together. In some ways, people are the opposite of where they were before the crash.

Sayid was trying to go straight, Hurley was trying to stay sane, Jack was trying to get on with his life, and Kate was just trying to run.

[lostfan777]

i agree something tragic and unexpected happens to Claire and Kate is forced to become a stand in mom.  I thought they made a huge point of that this week when Clair asked Kate to pick Aaron up when they were hanging the laundry out to dry (used all the good dryers in the hatches or what?)

IF something happens to Claire, it could explain why: a)Kate is raising Aaron; b)Jack is not anxious to visit Aaron; and c)Jack begins to fall apart. 

He is already drinking in the morning while he is still clean shaven and telling Hurley he is thinking about growing a beard.  He doesn't seem to have it all together while talking to Kate in the garage.  I think the lying, the guilt of things we probably have yet to see (the other 2 of , the realization that Ben was right about the rescue and the last straw of whoever it is in the coffin sends him over the edge.

[AlwaysLost]

8 is one of the numbers.  Everyone knows Kate wasn't pregnant when she was on the plane, I mean Claire was huge when the plane crashed.  This storyline doesn't make sense to me.  They must have forged something like a will for Kate to have the child.  Who in their right mind would grant custody to someone about to go on trial for murder?  Sorry, off topic.

Hurley, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Aaron so..I say Sun and Jin (he dies?)...I really have no idea, for all I know they killed two people and said they were the other two

[uofapiglet]

Aww, sledge had the two threads merged, I feel so special!!!

Anyway, yeah 8 seems like the magic number. I'm sticking to the idea that it's just their cover, especially after the conversation between Kate and Jack. But it also occurred to me that the Oceanic 6 had to have been rescued somewhere else, maybe a different island or via helicopter/ship. Because if they were found on the island they are on now, there would have to be thorough investigation and too many secrets would be revealed. So somehow those 6 (or managed to get off the island, get their sh*t and story together, and then make they re-entry into the "real" world.

[Point Place WI]

Ok, I don't know where to post this since there are so many claire aaron and kate similarity threads. 

Based on Jack's testimony and I'm believing Aaron is Claire's Aaron.

Survivors
-Jack
-Hugo
-Kate
-Sayid
-Aaron
-The Marshall
-Claire obviously/didn't give birth yet
-? others

Kate is the only female that could care for a child.  I've seen 3 men and a baby!  Would you want those guys caring for a kid.  Hell no!

[vickilynn]

Last week, did it make it clear that Sayid is one of the Oceanic 6? I can't remember, but since it was revealed that he was working for Ben (who fixed up his wound in a vet clinic) couldn't they both be undercover and no one knows Sayid was a survivor?

[Holland34]

Hurley, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Aaron so..I say Sun and Jin (he dies?)...I really have no idea, for all I know they killed two people and said they were the other two

I think the Sun / Jin concept makes a lot of sense based on her pregnancy.  Based on the math of when the baby is ultimately born, it would be discovered that she became pregnant on the island.  She would need Jin to be alive so that she had a realistic story of how she got pregnant.

That said, I am not sure they would count Aaron as one of the O6.  Everyone would know that Kate didn't have a baby when she boarded 815 (at best, she was secretly pregnant... or so the story would go.)  If the baby was supposedly born on the island, I doubt they would count him as one of the survivors. (Don't want to start a debate on when to count when someone is alive or not... just saying how I think they would act!)    I can possibly buy into the Charlie thing since he made contact to the outside world, but there would be issues that would need to be overcome in the story that is ultimately created.