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« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2008, 12:56:19 AM » |
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He has to be one of the 6 because the world would consider him rescued off the Island. Doesn't matter if he was on the plane or not, they would not exclude him from newspaper reports.
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« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2008, 12:58:12 AM » |
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I thought Jin and Sun would be the last two. If Aaron is the fifth (and I believe he is), the last one is probably either Sawyer or a big surprise. Potential big surprises: - Michael or Walt
- Desmond
- Christian Shepard
Id ike desi to make it.
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« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2008, 01:13:37 AM » |
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the trailer did say another one of the oceanic 6 would be revealed. I did not see this coming all the way through episode........Genius!
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How To End An Argument: Yeah well if there can be a perfect plane crash, polar bears, hidden initiatives, smoke monsters, hostile inhabitants, future seeing, flash forwards, freighter fighting, time traveling 70s, Egyptian mythology and Blowing up Nukes to survive ...THEN ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
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« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2008, 02:53:23 AM » |
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I'm not buying the "not on the manifest" thing. I think a media frenzy occurred and some newsperson coined a phrase: Oceanic Six. The *most* logical reason for the number six in a situation like that would be that they rescued six people. Period. There would be little reason for the media to use one coined phrase for plane people, one for fetuses who weren't born yet, and still another one for people like Ben. That's just too confusing for the general population watching CNN.
This is on the money. the trailer did say another one of the oceanic 6 would be revealed. I did not see this coming all the way through episode........Genius!
And this fact seals the deal. Aaron is 5 or 6. At first I thought that maybe they'd say Claire had survived, but died soonthereafter, giving Aaron to Kate. But now I'm not so sure. Had they done that, yes, the aunt would've been legally the most likely person to be given custody, once the O6 got back. Or, the couple who was waiting in LA to adopt the baby. I don't recall the final custody papers being signed yet by the LA couple & Claire, but they could've raised a legal stink. That leaves the cover story saying Claire was pregnant while in custody, and gave birth while stranded. Further, that'd indicate they're not getting off the island this go around. Another 6 months or so'd have to pass, minimum, to make that cover story hold water. And no, the Frank/Jack Red Sox convo suggests time moves the same on & off the island. Anyways, at this point, and likely even later, the Losties aren't hip to special relativity time shifts to the degree necessary to take advantage of it when concocting a timeline for their cover story.
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« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2008, 10:55:51 AM » |
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You know Kate was a fugitive on the run and couldn't be found. She could say that she was prego before the crash, and we still don't know how long they are truly on the island. So she could say that she had the baby on the island.
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« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2008, 12:09:04 PM » |
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Desmond can't be an O6, and Christian is dead. Even I gave up on that belief.
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« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2008, 04:29:41 PM » |
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Aaron could be considered one of the 6 in the sense that the settlement would have been made with Claire's estate. I think we can assume that the coverup story would have Claire dead.
Claire's aunt has been at odds with Claire since the car accident. She may be just as happy to see Claire and any spawn of hers out of her life.
The LA couple waiting to adopt was most likely just a ploy on the psychic's part to get Claire on the plane. In any case, no papers were signed with them.
I don't think Kate can claim the baby as biologically hers. Among other reasons they'd all have had pretty thorough physicals since rescue.
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« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2008, 05:47:09 PM » |
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I believe he is. THe producers said that not being on the plane would not exclude them from being one of the 6
Your statement about the producers saying that not being on the plane would not exclude them from being one of the 6 changes the way I've been thinking about who makes up the six... do you have a link to where they said that? I would love to hear / read that! Thanks!
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« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2008, 11:28:13 AM » |
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Here you go, Holland34. This is Jeff Jensen's weekly column on ew.com - great interview with Damon and Carlton. http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20179125,00.html
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« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2008, 01:57:04 PM » |
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Aaron is not one of the O6ers (imho) nor would Des be! As someone said, this is not real life, it's Lost! Besides we were already told that the O6ers got golden tickets from Oceanic. Would a plain company give life long free tickets to anyone w/o HAVING to???
Ben got off and probably others did too, but they weren't introduced to teh world, that's it! Ben would not want the media on him, Des prolly wouldn't either if he got off!
Only the ppl on the manifest would be O6ers (IMO)
so, Aaron doesn't count , still have 2 to go!
*my 2 cents*
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« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2008, 02:21:51 PM » |
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Good point, Pauinha. My feeling is they are counting Aaron, but probably not giving him a golden pass. I think the Oceanic 6 refers to the 6 people who were rescued. And I wouldn't be shocked if Ben assumed a dead passenger's identity, but more likely is he has another way off the Island, and comes and goes as he pleases. Could be the runway the Others were building, or maybe Locke didn't blow up the sub, or maybe there's another sub. Or maybe there's some special portal that he can walk through and he ends up in Germany or something. 
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« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2008, 02:30:20 PM » |
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Good point, Pauinha. My feeling is they are counting Aaron, but probably not giving him a golden pass. I think the Oceanic 6 refers to the 6 people who were rescued. And I wouldn't be shocked if Ben assumed a dead passenger's identity, but more likely is he has another way off the Island, and comes and goes as he pleases. Could be the runway the Others were building, or maybe Locke didn't blow up the sub, or maybe there's another sub. Or maybe there's some special portal that he can walk through and he ends up in Germany or something.  lmao on the portal to Germany LOL
i agree that Ben has "other means" to get off the island as he pleases! I've even began to join the group of the "the sub was a hoax, Locke blew up the wrong way out and Juliet never traveled by sub". The various passports and different money on Bens "walk in closet" indicate he HAS been off island and intents to be again and often!
Ben doesn't need to assume anyones identity! That would bring him unwanted publicity and he has several other identities to assume on that walk-in behind the book shelf!
You are all saying that if someone else was rescued the public wouldn't care if they were on 815 or not, well.... the point is, they are coming by freighter (at least that's what we know so far) so, if they didn't want to be KNOWN they would just ask to be droped somewhere else lol Like Desmond could ask to be left with Penny to avoid all the rush and media!
Only those 6 had to become known and played the part of the 6 from 8 survivors who owe all to Kate, the suer hero who saved everyone and had a baby on the island!!!!
All i want right now is to know what happened to make them leave the rest behind and make up such elaborate lie! Why are they all feeling guilty? Why didn't the rest leave? Why did Kate become such a dedicated mom?
I WANT TO GO BACK KNOW MORE!!!!
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« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2008, 02:34:53 PM » |
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Yeah, if Desmond gets off -- or anyone else who wasn't on the plane, for that matter -- they would have to come up with some elaborate story to explain that they were on the plane or take someone's identity. So Des, Juliet, Ben, if any of them leave on the freighter they would have to be dropped off early or something. I like that explanation.
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« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2008, 09:37:42 PM » |
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Remember how, earlier they made a big deal out of how many people the helicopter could hold ? It can't hold all of the people who want to get back to the ship, but the pilot said "one more" etc. I believe that we will find at the end that they took Aaron on the helicopter because, being only a little babe, he is very light.
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« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2008, 10:48:07 PM » |
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