The Future Ain't What It Used To Be....

[puff6962]

Jugdish you conclude that a statement is way off and based on wild speculation without knowing the thought or the premise of the suggestion.  Therefore, your reply is way off and your statement is based on wild speculation.

Explain to me how somebody who had won the lottery, weighs 360 pounds, was in a televised high speed chase, and one of the Oceanic Six could hide from his family that he is alive and is/was worth 150 million dollars.  Work on that one for a while and I'll await your plausible answer.

Next, explain to me how Kate Austin could return, presumably as one of the Oceanic Six, after being apprehended by a dead US Marshall, have her picture plastered on the news, and be free, wearing make-up, and driving a family car?

Finally, Jack.  How can Jack drink....after going to Australia to get his formerly dead dad out of a bender?  Was he delusional when he told them to go upstairs to get his father?  Why would he put his father's name on a script....He's not that stupid even if delusional?  In this reality, Christian is alive. 

After 13000 posts, I would have thought you'd learn a little patience. 

[PrincessLeia]

Let's all just be quiet & watch the show! [/mommy PL voice]

Blackrock Bob,

Where did the Randy is an hourly employee again - come from? Was that something else I missed in this ep?

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Randy

I missed it to, but sure enough- it was him!

[Jugdish]

Jugdish you conclude that a statement is way off and based on wild speculation without knowing the thought or the premise of the suggestion.  Therefore, your reply is way off and your statement is based on wild speculation.

Explain to me how somebody who had won the lottery, weighs 360 pounds, was in a televised high speed chase, and one of the Oceanic Six could hide from his family that he is alive and is/was worth 150 million dollars.  Work on that one for a while and I'll await your plausible answer.

Next, explain to me how Kate Austin could return, presumably as one of the Oceanic Six, after being apprehended by a dead US Marshall, have her picture plastered on the news, and be free, wearing make-up, and driving a family car?

Finally, Jack.  How can Jack drink....after going to Australia to get his formerly dead dad out of a bender?  Was he delusional when he told them to go upstairs to get his father?  Why would he put his father's name on a script....He's not that stupid even if delusional?  In this reality, Christian is alive. 

After 13000 posts, I would have thought you'd learn a little patience. 

Another season and more of your high and mighty talk. Non of it without listening to yourself. You are using speculation with no basis of the show.

Who said Hurley was hiding from his family. Where do you get this from. Just because we do not see them? They might of visited, they might of tried to help. There was zero information given on his family, yet your jump to that conclusion. Patience is good advice here.

Kate could easily have been tried and gotten off easy. Why? Well her mother is likely dead from cancer, the marshall is dead, and she would have great public sympathy from what she went through and play the victim of abuse. maybe she went to jail for a short period, is on parole. Plus she might be pregnant. Might not want to send a pregnant crash survivor to prison.Do I know this, of course not. But it is as good of explanation as yours is. (What does wearing make up have to do with anything?)

A sad truth in life is that children of alcholics often become alcholics. So he is just following in his daddy's first steps. And yes he is delusionally screaming to send his father down. That is my theory (also Matthew Fox himself said the same thing)

Am I right, who knows it is theorizing and speculation. But at least support yours with some background of the show.

[Fallybear]

The reactions to Puffs theory do sound a bit smug to me.  I don't think he's talking with any more authority than anyone else has. He has backed them up with examples. I find his theories entertaining and well though out.  Whether or not he (or anyone else) is right will soon be discovered.

It's sounding a little clickie here.

[Jugdish]

Fair enough opinion. But I do not believe it to be cliquey at all. Just my continueing battle with puff to support his theories with some evidence. That is all I am asking.

[PrincessLeia]

on Hurley- remember his "breakthrough" on the Island when he found happiness by giving all the food away?  IF he doesn't still have the money in the future, I think the writers have already given us a logical explanation to assume @ this point.

on Kate- she is a make-up girl.  She usually wears make-up in her flashbacks, & she wore make-up on the flight the day it crashed.  We've all gotten used to her "island-girl-natural-beauty" that seeing her again in make-up makes her seem like a different Kate.  Again- the writers have established a pattern. 

on Jack- the recap epi indicated that Jack does have an issue with drinking during periods of stress.  He was drinking before his wedding, he drank in the airport before flight 815, he drank on the plane.  Post-rescue life has obviously exponentially increased the stress, & the drinking has only followed suit. 

Matthew Fox did indicate that Jack WAS that delusional (to make the statement about his dad) in the s3 finale FF.  If you can't see that, you're missing the whole point of that flashforward.  It started out with him ready to jump off a bridge, for crying out loud. lol

That said-  I'm not ruling OUT the MPU theory, but nothing puff's saying brings me closer to it just yet.

[Jugdish]

Well stated and backed up. Like I said earlier, I am not dismissing MPU's either. What I need is a well supported theory on it.

[LostAndSeek]

I agree, PL, and play nice, boys.

[Blackrock Bob]

Blackrock Bob,

Where did the Randy is an hourly employee again - come from? Was that something else I missed in this ep?

Randy was wearing a goofy uniform and a hat, while he filmed Hurley on the chase.
Since he was working at the box company before Locke left for Australia, we can assume that he is back to being an hourly employee. If he was a manager, more than likely his uniform would be a little more dressy, and not quite as goofy.

[Wishbone]

Blackrock Bob,

Where did the Randy is an hourly employee again - come from? Was that something else I missed in this ep?

Randy was wearing a goofy uniform and a hat, while he filmed Hurley on the chase.
Since he was working at the box company before Locke left for Australia, we can assume that he is back to being an hourly employee. If he was a manager, more than likely his uniform would be a little more dressy, and not quite as goofy.

Unless it's wacky Wednesday

[puff6962]

The success of the show is premised on continually providing the unexpected.  Not an easy task.  One of the writers likened it to a Sherlock Holmes serial, except that instead of Sherlock Holmes having to explain his deductions, Lost viewers are trying to piece every clue together right there beside him. 

If we waited until we had the answers to speak on this website, then there wouldn't be too much to say until the final episode (except for Cooper being the man Sawyer was looking for.....I wrote about that one a long time ago and got a similar response from someone like you Jughead).

[JBRam]

Still no reason do believe in multiple parallel universes. As has been stated, we can't tell if Hurley had his money. Ana Lucia's cop friend probably assumed that a millionaire celebrity hadn't ever been threatened with SRMHI before. Hurley sounded like he wanted to go BACK, not to go to the mental hospital for the first time. The fact that he was driving the Camaro doesn't necessarily mean his dad is back, but that he had stolen the car from his family. I highly doubt that he was hiding from his family, if anyone in his family is left alive from Hurley's string of bad luck (aside from his mum). He might have been kicked out, though; his mother never believed in "ghosts."

Other people have made good arguments for the other two of the 6 that we know, so I don't feel like I need to add much to those. I am, however, curious to see if Kate got off due to Juggy's theories of an abuse charge or whatever, or if it was just because of her being from the Oceanic 6.

[lostfan777]

In the flash forwards:

Hurley doesn't have millions,

Jack's dad is alive, and

Kate didn't blow up her step-daddy (and her first love is alive and with her now).


The island is a conduit amongst realities.  The past two episodes may be suggestive.

I think everyone got on your case, Puff, just because you tend to state your theories as if they were spelled out and confirmed.  If you had started your thread with the words "I think...." it would have been followed by some friendly debate.  The point is none of us know for sure what the @#$! is going on yet and the only thing I'd bet real money on is that the show is going to take some crazy twists and turns before it's over and most of what we're thinking now will look foolish by 2010.

(Now everyone to their neutral corners!  )

[Jugdish]

The success of the show is premised on continually providing the unexpected.  Not an easy task.  One of the writers likened it to a Sherlock Holmes serial, except that instead of Sherlock Holmes having to explain his deductions, Lost viewers are trying to piece every clue together right there beside him. 

If we waited until we had the answers to speak on this website, then there wouldn't be too much to say until the final episode (except for Cooper being the man Sawyer was looking for.....I wrote about that one a long time ago and got a similar response from someone like you Jughead).

All I ask for is for you to put your predictions into some form of context based on what we see in the show. You said Hurley driving the car meant his dad never left. I point out that we know he had the car in Tricia Tanaka and his Dad had still left the family. (I have pointed of flaws in each of your arguements) So give me something that proves your point. Some evidence, some basis in the show. We are discussing your theory. That is what we do here, we discuss things. I am not going to take your statements with blind faith, and no one should take mine that way eithre. That is not asking that much. Do not make it personal.

[Jugdish]

Still no reason do believe in multiple parallel universes. As has been stated, we can't tell if Hurley had his money. Ana Lucia's cop friend probably assumed that a millionaire celebrity hadn't ever been threatened with SRMHI before. Hurley sounded like he wanted to go BACK, not to go to the mental hospital for the first time. The fact that he was driving the Camaro doesn't necessarily mean his dad is back, but that he had stolen the car from his family. I highly doubt that he was hiding from his family, if anyone in his family is left alive from Hurley's string of bad luck (aside from his mum). He might have been kicked out, though; his mother never believed in "ghosts."

Other people have made good arguments for the other two of the 6 that we know, so I don't feel like I need to add much to those. I am, however, curious to see if Kate got off due to Juggy's theories of an abuse charge or whatever, or if it was just because of her being from the Oceanic 6.

I agree with JB!