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« on: February 02, 2008, 05:40:40 PM » |
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In the flash forwards:
Hurley doesn't have millions,
Jack's dad is alive, and
Kate didn't blow up her step-daddy (and her first love is alive and with her now).
The island is a conduit amongst realities. The past two episodes may be suggestive.
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2008, 05:51:41 PM » |
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Hmm... it's possible Hurley's lost control of his fortune.... Good luck with the rest...  |
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2008, 05:55:35 PM » |
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In the flash forwards:
Hurley doesn't have millions,
Jack's dad is alive, and
Kate didn't blow up her step-daddy (and her first love is alive and with her now).
The island is a conduit amongst realities. The past two episodes have now shown that.
I've considered how Kate might be with Tom in the future. I keep coming back to the MPU theory! Welcome back, puff.  |
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2008, 07:52:03 PM » |
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What do you mean that Jack's dad is alive in the flash forwards?
If you're thinking of Jack in the hospital, saying call my father, if I'm drunker than he is etc...
I think that was just a delusional Jack - I didn't take it to mean that his father is actually alive. If that's what you meant...
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2008, 07:56:26 PM » |
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Funny....but thats alot of speculation...too much for me...
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2008, 10:20:12 PM » |
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When asked about what happened to the children, Carl (Alex's boyfriend) responded that they (the Others) gave them a "better life." That is what is happening in the flash forwards. Each of the three has the life they thought they wanted.
Jack is again a doctor (and might still be with Sarah). Hurley is driving the camaro, implying that his father never left the family, and there is no mention of the lottery or millions. He is threatened with a mental institution, implying that he has never been to one before. He is not visited by his mother in jail or in the institution meaning that he may be free of her as well.
Kate looks normal. Is she still on the run? How can she be one of the Oceanic Six and not be in jail? She is driving a family car. Did she end up with Tom and a baby (is that who she has to get back to?)? What I'm getting at is that each of the three are living a future that is inconsistent with the past that we have been previously given. Think about it.
History, however, seems to have gravity and the island wants them back. Why? Are the Hurley delusions real? What will happen to transform Jack into bearded Jack? I don't know the answers. But, again, the key point is that the new forwards don't match the pasts.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2008, 10:40:28 PM » |
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Jack isn't with Sarah, did you even watch the season finale? She came to the hospital because she was still his emergency contact AND she was married and pregnant! He was wearing no wedding ring when he saw Hurley. We will just have to wait and see more epi's as far as Kate goes. I love how you say it with such authority tho LOL
I can appreciate the mirrored timeline or parrell timeline theories...but what you suggest is not what they have shown us with the flashforwards thusfar imo. Now if what you are trying to say is that the price of them going back is undoing things they wished undone then I could go for that....just would have to suspend my disbelief and wait to see the story unfold.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2008, 11:25:16 PM » |
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I agree with AL....
Jack being a doctor is hardly inconsistent with his previous life.
Hurley's dad might have fixed up the Camaro while the big guy was in Australia, or H coulda fixed it after he got back. Just because we didn't see his mom doesn't mean she's not around. He may not have his money anymore, but he talked about that possibility at the beginning of the show.
The Kate we saw in the finale was, best guess, 2-3 years in the future of the events we saw last night. A lot can happen in that time....
Sorry Puff, just too much speculation based on too little evidence for me.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2008, 12:33:01 AM » |
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Another one bites the puff....
Jack was a crazy drug addict. Does not know what he is talking about.
They showed that he is not married to Sarah.
Where did they say Kate did not blow up her step father.
In the Hurley flashback Tricia Tanaka is dead. They showed that Hurley still had the car and it was in mint condition.
In this weeks ep, Hurley said he would be broke because they think he is dead.
In addition neither Jack or Hurley are living a life they would of wished for. they are both in pain and regretting decisions made. Plus they remember their life on the island.
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2008, 01:10:40 AM » |
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Another one bites the puff....
Jack was a crazy drug addict. Does not know what he is talking about.
They showed that he is not married to Sarah.
Where did they say Kate did not blow up her step father.
In the Hurley flashback Tricia Tanaka is dead. They showed that Hurley still had the car and it was in mint condition.
In this weeks ep, Hurley said he would be broke because they think he is dead.
In addition neither Jack or Hurley are living a life they would of wished for. they are both in pain and regretting decisions made. Plus they remember their life on the island.
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2008, 09:06:54 AM » |
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We don't know that Hurley wasn't still Rich. We know: 1) He was driving his father's camaro. 2) Randy was working as an hourly employee again, and not at the box company or the Chicken Shack. 3) Hurley didn't have a lawyer at the police station. 4) He went to the Santa Rosa Mental Health Institute and not a private one. My answers: 1) He had a change of heart about his father, and after the VW bus he wants to relive better times. 2) Randy is a jerk and was fired at the box factory. 3) He didn't have time to ask for a lawyer. He freaked out as soon as he came in, and wanted to go back to Santa Rosa Mental Health Institute . 4) He wanted to go back where he felt safe. So either his parents blew the money or he still is rich and doesn't care about it. I wouldn't put it past him to just give it all to his parents. We don't know enough either way. In fact it doesn't really matter right now. "Dude, Dave's not here man."  |
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2008, 10:45:31 AM » |
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I love how you say it with such authority tho LOL
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2008, 10:51:23 AM » |
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Blackrock Bob,
Where did the Randy is an hourly employee again - come from? Was that something else I missed in this ep?
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2008, 11:29:18 AM » |
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Bearded Jack is down the road. Thursday's show did not show Jack divorced and many of your comments miscounting this notion seem to support it. Hurley could have....Kate could have....Jack could have.
Just be a little less smug and keep an open mind. Multiple realities would explain how Ben could know that Juliet's sister's cancer would return and how he showed a video of her holding a child. In fact, multiple realities could likely be the basis of the entire show.
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2008, 12:17:35 PM » |
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Multiple realities might be part of the show. But your opening post was way off and based on wild speculation. Not what we have seen so far. Sarah and jack were divorced before the crash. Through Hurley's and Jack's flashforward episodes we see that they remember the island experience. How can their current reality be what they wanted and still have the island reality with them. They would be living one of the realities at a time. Not two or more.
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