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Offline goober

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2007, 03:27:22 PM »
Him refers to Ben. The island has no gender.

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2007, 07:11:17 PM »
Ben- wanted Cooper DEAD.  Cooper knows something.  When Cooper said to Locke "don't you know where we are", Tom abruptly shut the door on him.  Cooper is an inconvenience, Locke's 'mess' to clean up.  Killing Cooper was Ben's test to Locke to see if had the ability to do that, if he had 'murder in his heart'.  But as in all things Lost, there was dual or even triple meanings to the killing- would prove Locke as strong, a leader, that he would take the ultimate 'order' from Ben, so he was faithful, but also getting rid of Cooper- he was somewhere he didn't belong...Ben to Locke "you brought him here".

Locke- was seen as someone 'special', but could not complete the dirty deed that Ben asked of him, the utlimate sacrifice, kill your own Dad.  But the duality was also to disgrace Locke in front of the dirty Others, so that Locke would have no power.  Ben's manipulations always have dual or triple effects, all in his favor of course.  If Locke was "him", and was special, then the killing would have been to show that he was committed to the cause.  Ben to Locke, "you're not ready, yet".  Locke is complicit even so, however, because he set up Cooper to be killed by Sawyer.  Even though he didn't do it, he made it possible by seeking out Sawyer.

Cooper- knew he was already 'dead' so he had nothing to lose.  Could have been tricked or influenced by Ben to 'test' both Sawyer and Locke by being combative and forcing them to kill him.  Patchy to Hurley, "I've already died once this week", and the real kicker, "wounds heal quickly on this island".  Maybe Ben promised Cooper 'another life' if he pushed Sawyer and Locke to the edge, forcing them to make a decision to kill him.  One small detail, Locke has Cooper's body...but is it really Cooper or a smokey illusion an island manifestation?

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2007, 12:49:53 AM »
I've been pretty much under the impression that the Others are perfectly willing to kill someone who's bad, or to kill to get what they want, I always thought it was only bad to kill one of their of own, hence why Juliette was put through the trial. Have the others actually killed any of the losties, or was it just the slightly deranged ones (Ethan..)? This thread totally confused me in my thinkin...

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2007, 01:57:36 PM »
Has everyone forgotten that Locke killed Mikhail a week earlier?

The others probably dont know it yet, but we do.
If Locke can kill someone for not being friendly, why cant he kill his dad?

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2007, 02:06:27 PM »
Well of course, Locke didn't "KILL" Mikhail since Mikhail is alive right now. But he attempted.

btw, that's at least the third time you posted that...

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2007, 02:40:39 PM »
yeah i posted it in every related topic ;D

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2007, 02:45:23 PM »
psst... just between you and me... we're aren't really supposed to do that ;D lol

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2007, 03:04:44 PM »
I'm not sure that it was Locke's intention to kill Mikhail.
 
Two things come to mind:

1. Locke didn't know if the fence was active, and if so, what would it do to a person? Kill or just incapacitate.

2. Locke has faith in the healing powers of the island. Maybe he assumed that the island would heal Mikhail if he were injured by the fence ???

OR it could be that Locke lost his temper (he does have an anger-issue as we all know).

OR it could be that Locke is so obsessed with the island and its origins (fanatical actually) that he would do anything to uncover the answers that he seeks... but then again he would have killed his father if this one were true now wouldn't he?

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2007, 08:12:49 PM »
Or could it be that Mikal knew/knows John Locke and he is hiding something...

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2007, 08:17:22 PM »
OMFG! I figured it out!

Locke likes wearing women's undergarments..... :o :o :o

J. Edgar Locke! :P

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2007, 08:18:08 PM »
ROTFL...guess you never stopped drinking the scotch eh?  ;)

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2007, 08:20:01 PM »
No drinky drinky. I'm silly enough without it. If I drank I'd be institutionalized.

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2007, 08:21:17 PM »
LOL, just quoting you from another thread brutha!

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2007, 08:32:10 PM »
I know. I joke about it, but I REAAAAALLLY don't need it.

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Re: WHY did the Others want Cooper dead!?!
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2007, 08:32:56 PM »
I believe you!!!  Seen you post with Chelle!!  LOL