How will the "murder" of "Sawyer affect "James"

[LostGirlDeb]

Wow I was blown away that "James" actually killed Cooper/Sawyer
I was thinking that when it came down to it he would not be able to do it
That the island has some how given them a chance to re-do or make peace with things
I don't know now how this will affect "the purpose" of them being on the island.
Did he just fail a "test" ?
Is he spiritually/morally corrupt now or has justice been served?

Any Thoughts?

[apriori]

I think that there are two ways he can go with this:
He can be like Batman, and don a caped suit to fight crime, or
He can be like Beatrix Kiddo, and live a normal life with his daughter.

What I'm trying to say here is that because he was consumed by a desire for revenge for so long, he's going to be changing a lot because he doesn't really have a purpose now, perse. You'd think that the way the island directs people he'd find forgiveness, but with the way Locke manipulated him things didn't work out that way.

[Maxor127]

I was asking the same questions in the what will happen to Locke now that his dad is dead thread.  Because the whole situation seemed reminiscent of an island test, and Eko's dying words seemed to be that the smoke monster is coming for everyone or at the very least Locke.  I just don't want to see Sawyer get used as a human mallet like Eko did.

And apriori brings up good points too.  I'm pretty sure the tape will cause a civil war among the survivors, and they'll split up into two groups... one led by Sawyer and the other led by Jack.  Maybe that's how Sawyer will change.  He'll finally become a leader and take care of someone other than himself.

[LostGirlDeb]

Maxor I like that last idea of him finally becoming a leader,
but I can't help think that this could also destroy him as a person.

Yes he wanted revenge for so long, but we have seen such a profound change in him since he landed on the island that I really thought he would not go through with it and if he did he would be mortified and regret it.

Apriori, yes I agree revenge was the driving force in his life..now what?

Will be interesting to see..how it goes

Just another test?

[Ladybug]

i think he will go back to the beach and not say a word to anyone about what happened.  nothing will come out until ben or locke tell the fellow losties.  he might act a bit different, i think he will become more affectionate with kate most noticibly, just trying to reach out and have that human contact and want that connection and justification of sorts when she accepts him even though she doesn't know what he did.

[WhatThe]

I was asking the same questions in the what will happen to Locke now that his dad is dead thread.  Because the whole situation seemed reminiscent of an island test, and Eko's dying words seemed to be that the smoke monster is coming for everyone or at the very least Locke.  I just don't want to see Sawyer get used as a human mallet like Eko did.

And apriori brings up good points too.  I'm pretty sure the tape will cause a civil war among the survivors, and they'll split up into two groups... one led by Sawyer and the other led by Jack.  Maybe that's how Sawyer will change.  He'll finally become a leader and take care of someone other than himself.

Who there would actually follow Jack?...

I think the tape is going to force Juliet and Jack to show their hand to everyone and let the rest of the Losties in on the plan they devised together.

[WhatThe]

By the way, does this make Locke even closer to Ben's level now? I mean, it did require a fair amount of manipulation to maneuver Sawyer inito a position to kill Cooper. It was almost Ben-like.

[DizzyIzzy]

I was sad to see Sawyer kill Cooper.  It was murder no matter what the situation in my opinion.  The show has so many "judgements" between characters who really don't know each other (I feel that Locke judged it would be ok for Sawyer to kill Cooper, but would not take the responsibility of the murder upon himself.)  Who know in the big scheme of LOST... I wouldn't know half of what is going on without this website.  It's interesting that a show tells its store in an hour TV program, web adventures, plus podcasts.  Dang!  You used to be able to sit down once a week and enjoy and understand and anticipate the next week's show.  Sorry for the negativity, but I'm getting very lost.  I love ya'll!  Without you I'd have given up at the end of last season.

How will killing another man effect Sawyer?  I have no clue.  I'd think he might withdraw some and appear angry to the losties.  I'd hope he'd turn to Kate and talk it through with her.  But the show will tell.

[PrincessLeia]

How disturbing is this...by the time it happenned, I was actually rooting for Sawyer to kill him.   It was SO climactic.  How can you stop a moving train like that?  Sometimes you just have to let it crash, then deal with the mess afterward. 

Anyway- I agree with LB- he will be changed.  Most notably in his relationship with Kate.  I do think that his new purpose will be found in leading the Losties once Juliack is punk'd. lol

[AstroJones]

I know there will be lots of varying opinions on this, kinda like there is on capital punishment in the US. But I for one am glad that Sawyer killed Cooper.  If anyone deserved and needed to be killed, it was him, and Sawyer was just the person to do it.  I was cheering as I watced that scene, and would have been pretty pissed had he not done it.  Even in real life, someone like Sawyer, who's spent so much of his life planning for that moment, and basing his whole existance on revenge wouldn't be able to fight that away.  I am also glad that Sawyer threw up afterwords though.  It sort of showed that he isn't really an evil cold blooded killer.  He did what he spent his whole life thinking he had to do.  It will definitely change him.  He'll have to rediscover his purpose and place in the world.  But a HUGE weight has also been lifted from his shoulders.

But I'd also like to mention.  Locke is just as responsible.  At least in my mind.

[PrincessLeia]

I know there will be lots of varying opinions on this, kinda like there is on capital punishment in the US. But I for one am glad that Sawyer killed Cooper.  If anyone deserved and needed to be killed, it was him, and Sawyer was just the person to do it.  I was cheering as I watced that scene, and would have been pretty pissed had he not done it.  Even in real life, someone like Sawyer, who's spent so much of his life planning for that moment, and basing his whole existance on revenge wouldn't be able to fight that away.  I am also glad that Sawyer threw up afterwords though.  It sort of showed that he isn't really an evil cold blooded killer.  He did what he spent his whole life thinking he had to do.  It will definitely change him.  He'll have to rediscover his purpose and place in the world.  But a HUGE weight has also been lifted from his shoulders.

But I'd also like to mention.  Locke is just as responsible.  At least in my mind.

100000% agree.   It was too intense.  He needed the resolution.  I needed the resolution!  I was crying & cheering inside @ the same time!

[*MaZ*]

The others really have bad options when it comes to leaders: manipulative self-serving Ben, or coward Locke.
How can you pass a test if the result is only achieved by manipulating a deranged red-neck to do your dirty deeds for you?
And for those of you who love Locke and think he's such a nice boy scout that couldn't kill his own dad: the fact he got Sawyer to kill his dad for him doesn't make him less of a murderer.

[AstroJones]

yeah, I told my wife afterwards that I felt like I'd just watched Darth Vader throw the Emperor over the guard rail.  Or even more so watched Obi Wan scream "you were the chosen one" at Anakin.  Had that same kind of intense vib.

[PrincessLeia]

yeah, I told my wife afterwards that I felt like I'd just watched Darth Vader throw the Emperor over the guard rail.  Or even more so watched Obi Wan scream "you were the chosen one" at Anakin.  Had that same kind of intense vib.

Ok- get out of my head. You're starting to creep me out.  lol

[JBRam]

I know there will be lots of varying opinions on this, kinda like there is on capital punishment in the US. But I for one am glad that Sawyer killed Cooper.  If anyone deserved and needed to be killed, it was him, and Sawyer was just the person to do it.  I was cheering as I watced that scene, and would have been pretty pissed had he not done it.  Even in real life, someone like Sawyer, who's spent so much of his life planning for that moment, and basing his whole existance on revenge wouldn't be able to fight that away.  I am also glad that Sawyer threw up afterwords though.  It sort of showed that he isn't really an evil cold blooded killer.  He did what he spent his whole life thinking he had to do.  It will definitely change him.  He'll have to rediscover his purpose and place in the world.  But a HUGE weight has also been lifted from his shoulders.

But I'd also like to mention.  Locke is just as responsible.  At least in my mind.

100000% agree.   It was too intense.  He needed the resolution.  I needed the resolution!  I was crying & cheering inside @ the same time!

I agree as well. Cooper needed to die and Sawyer was the only one who could put justice on him.