What Happened to Michael and Walt?

[puff6962]

Oh, you mean with the taking Walt and the deal made with Michael....

Ben didn't make that deal and Ben may not have been the one who wanted Walt.

[Jugdish]

In the Nikki and Paulo episode when Ben and Juliet are watching Jack, Ben mentions the plans to get Michael to bring Jack to him. Ben was in on the planning from the beggining.

[Laklost]

I like to think that as bad as people think Michael is (although I really wonder how bad a father is who is trying against desperate circumstances to save his son???), Walt would never stand for just leaving the Losties.  Whether or not he has super-boy abilities, he's going to do the right thing with his father and come back and save everyone.  And wouldn't that be nice if in the whole mythology of "Lost" one father-son pair could actually be redeemed and helpful to society?!  Now that would be a surprise!

[puff6962]

Michael was a lousy dad, gave up all rights to his son, knew nothing about him, was annoyed to be straddled with the duties of fatherhood (he was trying to pin Walt on his grandmother), did little in the way of getting to know his son on the island, and....most of all....MICHAEL IS A MURDERER. 

Walt, who is too young to know better, would be better off without him.  He always was.

[DirtyMaggieMae]

I think Micheal was trying to be a good father.  He wanted his son with him, he just didn't have the financial means to do so against Walt's mom.  He realized later that maybe, just maybe, Walt would be able to live a better life if he was with his wealthy mother.  He was making every move he thought best to keep Walt safe.  He was very protective of him around the other Losties and on the island itself.  I think he wanted to be a good dad, but he doesn't really know how to do it.  He had to start from scratch with a ten year old son, already opinionated and in very undesirable circumstances: plane crash, his mom just died, Walt never saw the letters Micheal gave him...

[puff6962]

oh ya.....and he's a murderer! 

i think that the only way you could return two people back to the world, in which it seems they may no longer exist, would be to exile them to a remote region outside of the eyes of the world....Wichita....or somewhere like that.

[DirtyMaggieMae]

oooh... that whole murder thing.... I think the Others hopped him up on something... and plus it just goes to show how strong his love for Walt was... sure he was misguided 

[*MaZ*]

Michael was a lousy dad, gave up all rights to his son, knew nothing about him, was annoyed to be straddled with the duties of fatherhood (he was trying to pin Walt on his grandmother), did little in the way of getting to know his son on the island, and....most of all....MICHAEL IS A MURDERER. 

Walt, who is too young to know better, would be better off without him.  He always was.

Agree 100%. And we're all better off without Michael... just the thought of having him back next season makes me ill.
Or have you guys forgotten just how ANNOYING "my boy" Michael is??? Please, let him have been eaten by sharks!

[AstroJones]

Although I didn't personally like Michael, I do think he was trying to do what he thought best in unbearable circumstances.  He didn't really know Ana Lucia, and his experience with her wasn't a good one.  I'm sure he already had some hatred for her, and was willing to sacrifice her to save his son.  Libby was an accident, in a way.  He didn't mean to kill her but reacted due to the circumstances.

As for Michael returning next year....
[spoiler]The actor, Harold Perrineau, has been cast in a pilot for a new series. A recent article stated that Lost producers wanted him back next season and was working on an arrangement that would allow him to come back and still shoot his new show, assuming that it is picked up by its network.  So it seems that whether we see Michael might be up to "real world" circumstances more than anything else.[/spoiler]

[puff6962]

I am of the belief that the magic box metaphor will allow the return of some characters.... if they can get Cooper to the island without the sub, why can't they materialize a dead guy.  I am supported in this belief by the manner in which the writers throw up new characters in the flashbacks and see how they float.  Characters such as Michael.....booooooooo.....Cassidy or whatever her name is....boooooooooo.  Christian....yeaaaaaaaaa....Mr. Kwon....big yeaaaaaaaaa.

What a vehicle.  You could keep the actor's salories low, because you just kill them off if they start getting cute or getting too many DUI's.

The difficulty with Walt is that the kid is growing.  A couple of months have passed on the island and Walt goes from 11 to growing a beard and driving the Dharma van (what happened to that thing?).

If they are shooting Walt now, for future scenes, that would make sense.  But, Michael deserves to be dead and that is the only thing in his story that I would want to see. 

Oh yea, Michael was ALWAYS a flake and a lousy dad.  Go back and watch season one and two after you know what he finally did.  Someone should have shot him before he got on the plane and spared us all the misery of watching this loser for two seasons.  Sorry, venting.  But, I don't think that is possible to have empathy for this deadbeat who tried to PAWN OFF Walt onto his grandmother before they ever boarded the plane!  Oh ya, he's a murderer.

[Optimus J]

I believe that Michael and Walt did follow that bearing and did find rescue then were given a deal they couldn't refuse.  What if there's an "otherville" out there that allows them to live happily ever after together?  You know, like stay here in live with us free of charge and free of violence, evil, etc.  As long as Walt attends school and has special classes teaching his abilities to elders!

Yup, If the organization of the others is so powerful that they could stage a fake 815 crash, why not keep their word, and HIDE Michael and Walt under new identities outside?
BUT we have to remember that Widmore seems to be antagonizing with the Others, and the same could have happen with Mike & son but in the hands of Penny. And that's why Naomi was allowed to reach the island. Good information.

[AstroJones]

Hey Puff, they can easily explain Walt's aging...they've introduce possible time travel in the show!    Or maybe Walt is special because he exists outside of the normal space-time continuum.  :|

[puff6962]

Or maybe Walt never left.

[a_dot_out]

If the passengers of 815 are dead, yet Michael and Walt were allowed to leave the island, where did they go?

- S02E24 -
BEN: Good, then you're going to take this boat and follow a compass bearing of 325, and if you do that exactly, you and your son will find rescue.

MICHAEL: That's it? I follow the bearing and me and my son get rescued?

BEN: Yes.

It is not yet clear as to what Ben's idea of a rescue is. I will speculate...

They could have been rescued by Others. Even thought off-Island communication would have been downed at this point, arrangements would have already been made pre-purple sky. The Others could have then orchestrated a fake marooning of Michael and Walt on a known island and then a real world rescue would be prompted to occur. Michael and Walt would have their 15 minutes of fame in the world spotlight as the miracle pair of "Lost Survivors" from FLT815. They would tell their fabricated story of surviving on this other "normal" island...

[continued below]

If the crash of 815 was staged, how did anyone get Michael to keep his mouth shut about their ordeal?  Michael would find a way to blab with his head cut off.

- S02E24 -
MICHAEL: How do you know I won't tell people about where I was?

BEN: Maybe you will, maybe you won't. But it won't matter. Once you leave, you'll never be able to get back here. And my hunch is you won't say a word to anybody because if you do, people will find out what you did to get your son back.

[continued speculation from above]

Michael and Walt will be forcefully reminded that they will remain under the all watchful eye of Big
Other and to not stray from the fabricated survival story. Although once Michael and Walt leave they could not return to the Island under their own power, but certainly could be brought back to the Island on The Others' whim. I think Michael would actually even be fine with this set up. Let's be honest, Michael repeatedly demonstrated he truly did not care about the other Losties when push came to shove. He only looks out for Number 1 and now Walt. He would be content with keeping his lips shut. I could see Walt pushing the envelope eventually though.

If Michael and Walt were sent to their deaths on that boat, how did Ben maintain control of his pride after they saw him break his word?

Perhaps none of this occured and the yet to be clearly defined Other Others intercepted Michael and Walt... Ben knew this would happen, but it enabled him to maintain the false appearance of maintaining his word.

If Michael and Walt entered a separate reality, was this one that occurred with no plane flight?

Bart: Do you realize what this means?
Milhouse: Yeah, but you say it first.

[matahari]

Or maybe Walt is special because he exists outside of the normal space-time continuum.  :|

Would explain Walt's aging. Ms. Klugh did threaten to put Walt back in the room, which I took to mean room #23 (brainwashing room). IF Walt was no longer enslaved by time and space he would be free to traverse the dimension of time. or Sky turned purple right after Michael and Walt left the Pala Ferry. Could've opened up "rip in fabric of time". 

I don't think they got out of the "snowglobe" though. I believe the other's intercepted them somewhere before they reached the real world.

As for Michael, I was sympathetic to his having newly become a father again, but ever since he shot Libby and A.L. I can't get behind him. I wanna see Smokey tear into him. That'd be awesome!