What Happened to Michael and Walt?

[puff6962]

If the passengers of 815 are dead, yet Michael and Walt were allowed to leave the island, where did they go?

If the crash of 815 was staged, how did anyone get Michael to keep his mouth shut about their ordeal?  Michael would find a way to blab with his head cut off.

If Michael and Walt were sent to their deaths on that boat, how did Ben maintain control of his pride after they saw him break his word?

If Michael and Walt entered a separate reality, was this one that occurred with no plane flight?

If Naomi is lying, why would she lie?  What outside group would want the castaways to believe that they had nowhere else to go....this was it?  (I believe that Dharma still exists and Naomi is a member.  That is why Mikail was looking for her).

[Jugdish]

Naomi is telling the truth, Micheal and Walt never got away. They were picked up by Ben's goons shortly after they left.

[puff6962]

Really?  Did I miss an episode?

[Jugdish]

No,it is my theory

[Geronimo Jackson]

Naomi is telling the truth, Micheal and Walt never got away. They were picked up by Ben's goons shortly after they left.

Don't know if she is telling the truth or not podcast some what suppports me, but no they never got away, will be back in season 4

[puff6962]

Ya, they basically laid out the possibility of conspiracy or her lying....

I think that we can discount the first option due to the presence of Michael's enormous mouth.  They would have had to kill the guy.....wait a minute....perhaps that's another option.  They let Michael and Walt off the island, they did circles for a while, Walt got to see how annoying his dad really was, and Walt shot Michael and willed the boat to return.  Season 4, Walt's return.

So, recapping, another possibility....they let the two off the island as promised, but Walt was the only one who is still alive.  Naomi may be telling the truth.

[Geronimo Jackson]

Ya, they basically laid out the possibility of conspiracy or her lying....

I think that we can discount the first option due to the presence of Michael's enormous mouth.  They would have had to kill the guy.....wait a minute....perhaps that's another option.  They let Michael and Walt off the island, they did circles for a while, Walt got to see how annoying his dad really was, and Walt shot Michael and willed the boat to return.  Season 4, Walt's return.

So, recapping, another possibility....they let the two off the island as promised, but Walt was the only one who is still alive.  Naomi may be telling the truth.

nah Naomi lying i had a poll way back in season two on Michael'sdeath sometime that creep has to die!!

[Jugdish]

We will get back to their story in season 4. I think they are alive

[Geronimo Jackson]

We will get back to their story in season 4. I think they are alive

 yes they will be back in season 4 and alive

[eelpie62]

The movie Capricorn One comes to mind.

[T Mack]

If the passengers of 815 are dead, yet Michael and Walt were allowed to leave the island, where did they go?

  Well they obviously aren't dead in this timeline, the one we are watching, otherwise we wouldn't be watching them!  If Michael and Walt were allowed to leave, and they didn't die, then I beleive they are back in the real world, or another timeline of the real world, and that this will have major consequences in upcoming episodes.

If the crash of 815 was staged, how did anyone get Michael to keep his mouth shut about their ordeal?  Michael would find a way to blab with his head cut off.

I agree, and this may be what triggered Naomi to the island.  Everyone thinks it's Penny and her Portugeuse friends locating a mysterious magnetic anomaly (how would you located one, anyway?), but it would be cool if Michael has sent "help".

If Michael and Walt were sent to their deaths on that boat, how did Ben maintain control of his pride after they saw him break his word?

If they were sent to their death, this may be one of the reasons Ben has lost touch with the island, and why he became sick, because he is no longer "a good person".

If Michael and Walt entered a separate reality, was this one that occurred with no plane flight?

  Wow, I just got a head rush.

If Naomi is lying, why would she lie?  What outside group would want the castaways to believe that they had nowhere else to go....this was it?  (I believe that Dharma still exists and Naomi is a member.  That is why Mikail was looking for her).

  I don't believe she is lying either, she may in fact be Dharma, even if she is working for Penny she may still be a Dharma holdout. However, if she is (and Michael has not told the world of 815's fate), since she has no connection to flight 815, nor has any prior knowledge of them being there (she's supposedly looking for Desmond), then it would seem to make sense that she is telling the truth.

Bottom line, as always with Lost, we just don't have enough information to make an inference at this time.  Check back after Season 4 is over.

[puff6962]

I re watched live together die alone.  Let me just begin by saying that a very warm place is being prepared for Michael wherever he may be.  Ben describes being unhappy with the deal that was struck in the first place and almost suggests that the Others didn't know what they were getting with Walt.  

Anyway, Ben just promised that....if Michael maintained a bearing of 325 that he and Walt would "find rescue."  He doesn't state that "they would go home" and he does not specifically refer to what they will encounter.  

He does state that Michael and Walt will not be able to find their way back to the island.  My guess is that we won't be seeing anymore of Walt unless ratings need a rescue.  Too many questions to answer and too risky in the storyline.

I would say that it would be nice to have a flashback sometime when we see Michael putting a gun to his head because he is a murderer and Walt has figured out what a loser he really is.  That I would watch.

Anyway, as I write this, it occurs to me that Ben knew that the hatch would implode and the electromagnetic anomaly would occur just when it did.  It was this anomaly that allowed the plane to enter the "snowglobe" of the island.  It was a similar anomaly (lightning) that allowed Desmond to get through with his sailboat.  Connecting the two, it was the timing of this anomaly that provided a means for Michael and Walt to leave.

That means that Ben got everything that he could have wanted when he wanted it.  How does Ben do it?

[T Mack]

I re watched live together die alone.  Let me just begin by saying that a very warm place is being prepared for Michael wherever he may be.  Ben describes being unhappy with the deal that was struck in the first place and almost suggests that the Others didn't know what they were getting with Walt.  

Anyway, Ben just promised that....if Michael maintained a bearing of 325 that he and Walt would "find rescue."  He doesn't state that "they would go home" and he does not specifically refer to what they will encounter.  

He does state that Michael and Walt will not be able to find their way back to the island.  My guess is that we won't be seeing anymore of Walt unless ratings need a rescue.  Too many questions to answer and too risky in the storyline.

I would say that it would be nice to have a flashback sometime when we see Michael putting a gun to his head because he is a murderer and Walt has figured out what a loser he really is.  That I would watch.

Anyway, as I write this, it occurs to me that Ben knew that the hatch would implode and the electromagnetic anomaly would occur just when it did.  It was this anomaly that allowed the plane to enter the "snowglobe" of the island.  It was a similar anomaly (lightning) that allowed Desmond to get through with his sailboat.  Connecting the two, it was the timing of this anomaly that provided a means for Michael and Walt to leave.

That means that Ben got everything that he could have wanted when he wanted it.  How does Ben do it?

You just contradicted yourself.

[puff6962]

contrare mofrare....how do you figure?

[Lostatwork]

I believe that Michael and Walt did follow that bearing and did find rescue then were given a deal they couldn't refuse.  What if there's an "otherville" out there that allows them to live happily ever after together?  You know, like stay here in live with us free of charge and free of violence, evil, etc.  As long as Walt attends school and has special classes teaching his abilities to elders!