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« on: April 11, 2007, 11:46:58 PM »

(1)  What's Sun's fate, seeing as she is pregnant?  And don't the Others know she's pregnant?  They seem to know everything else.

(2)  I didn't quite follow the thing with Claire.  Did she really need the Others' intervention to carry her pregnancy to term?  Or was that some sort of ruse.

(3)  Wasn't Rousseau pregnant when she landed on the island with her exploration party???
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2007, 11:51:17 PM »

I think Rousseau and Claire carried to term because they hadn't been exposed to the island as long as the women Juliette was working on.  Without the 'help' of the others Claire would have had a regular pregnancy.  Ethan was taking blood samples we know, not pumping her full of serum on the beach.  Claire's sickness was caused by an implant, so I think Sun will have a regular pregnancy... as long as she doesn't let Juliette mess around with her.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2007, 11:53:13 PM »

(1) LOST will be over before Sun gives birth, so I assume that she will either be dead or back in Korea by that time.

(2) I still think that this was not just a ruse. Whether Claire needed medication afterwards or not, I'm not sure. I think that was just to gain trust from everyone else.

(3) Yes she was. Alex was born a month or so after Rousseau landed
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2007, 12:02:26 AM »

(1) LOST will be over before Sun gives birth, so I assume that she will either be dead or back in Korea by that time.

(2) I still think that this was not just a ruse. Whether Claire needed medication afterwards or not, I'm not sure. I think that was just to gain trust from everyone else.

(3) Yes she was. Alex was born a month or so after Rousseau landed

Juliet said that she believed whatever happened to cause the deaths of the mother's happened at conception.  So, the pregnancies that began off the island might not be affected by whatever is causing the others to fail.  The injections that they were giving Claire might have just been a trial of a new serum.  Juliet said that Claire was supposed to be their control case.  However, Juliet lies.  The question is what is implanted in her and what is its purpose.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2007, 12:05:27 AM »

I think Rousseau and Claire carried to term because they hadn't been exposed to the island as long as the women Juliette was working on.  Without the 'help' of the others Claire would have had a regular pregnancy.  Ethan was taking blood samples we know, not pumping her full of serum on the beach.  Claire's sickness was caused by an implant, so I think Sun will have a regular pregnancy... as long as she doesn't let Juliette mess around with her.

Juliet said that they did the blood work on Claire because it was something the island did to pregnant women that caused them to die from either being pregnant or giving birth.  So to me, that says Sun is still in danger and that Rousseau should have been in danger.  Rousseau was 7 months pregnant when she came to the island and the others took Alex when she was just a week old, probably because they thought Rousseau would die.  This issue could explain all the young population in Otherville, though.  It does seem that if the baby is carried to full term, the baby survives, just not the mother.  I wonder why Rousseau wasn't affected by this and if it has anything to do with the fact that she was the only member of her team that didn't get sick.
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2007, 12:09:01 AM »

Jenni, Juliet said that Claire was experiencing the same symptoms (from the blood work)
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2007, 12:25:14 AM »

Juliet is a liar. 

Claire was the test case.  She successfully carried the baby to term on the island and lived to tell about it.  The other's monitored her and gave her an implant (hopefully two) for some reason unknown.....  Did they envision the chain of events necessary to infiltrate the camp?
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2007, 06:33:20 AM »

Where did Karl come from? Isn't he the same age as Alex? Where was his mom when she conceived? Where is she now?
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2007, 07:07:08 AM »

Another fertility issue:

This episode made me think of the whole issue with Richard Malkin, the Australian psychic. He wanted her to go to America to give away her child, but who was he in contact with? 

I have two opposing arguments:

1. His phrase "This baby must not be raised by another/an Other has previously made me think he belonged to a group opposing the Others.

2. We now know that the Others have a "branch" outside the island, namely Mittelos, wherever their facility is (did we learn that this week?). That could be an indication he was with them.

I'm leaning towards the second right now, but what do you guys think?
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2007, 07:16:31 AM »

I would like to know what has changed on the island as far as sterility goes between the time Ben was born there and our current problem.  Was his mother pregnant before she came to the island?  Did she conceive and give birth on the island, but for some reason was immune to the sterilizing effects?
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2007, 08:57:23 AM »

I'm wondering if the changes made to the anomoly in the Swan hatch somehow messed up the ability for women impregnated on the island to give birth.  Theoretically, that station wouldn't have been there when Ben was born.  Of course, we also haven't really seen anyone old enough to be Ben's mother (at first glance, anyway).
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2007, 09:06:33 AM »

(1) LOST will be over before Sun gives birth, so I assume that she will either be dead or back in Korea by that time.

(2) I still think that this was not just a ruse. Whether Claire needed medication afterwards or not, I'm not sure. I think that was just to gain trust from everyone else.

(3) Yes she was. Alex was born a month or so after Rousseau landed

Juliet said that she believed whatever happened to cause the deaths of the mother's happened at conception.  So, the pregnancies that began off the island might not be affected by whatever is causing the others to fail.  The injections that they were giving Claire might have just been a trial of a new serum.  Juliet said that Claire was supposed to be their control case.  However, Juliet lies.  The question is what is implanted in her and what is its purpose.

Man, I am glad you posted this!  I had forgotten what Juliet said about it happening at conception, and was trying to figure out how Claire and Danielle got away with giving birth.  That means Sun has a 50-50 chance of being screwed, though.  Maybe that's why it has all of a sudden become important to get Juliet into the Losties camp.

I think the implant was obviously there for the exact reason that we saw on the show....to make her sick so that she required outside help.  I also believe it could have killed her.  Furthermore, I think anyone who has come into contact with the others has the same implant.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2007, 09:07:40 AM »

Maybe Ben is suffering from the Blue Lagoon Disease.  He could've just ended up there as a small child and thought that the island conceived him, much like Locke's immaculate conception.  That could be why he feels superior to the others.   Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2007, 09:31:25 AM »

Do we know Sun got pregnant on the island because in a flashback she was doinking the other dude.  I have no idea of the time line of everything involved with her, but I'm just throwing this out there for someone who does know.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2007, 10:33:40 AM »

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Do we know Sun got pregnant on the island because in a flashback she was doinking the other dude.  I have no idea of the time line of everything involved with her, but I'm just throwing this out there for someone who does know.

We don't know at this point.
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