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Re: One Intense Trip
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2007, 06:26:42 PM »
Yeah, she totally has the MO of a back-seat sub driver!

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« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2007, 09:47:26 PM »
Must be a quick sub to take Juliet there before the tranquilisers wear off  :D. Still they could have re-dosed her on route or had multiple forms of transport through the journey (there was a private airport on the Mittelos site).
However we all know the journey was somewhat out of this world, as alluded to by Richard before they departed.
Any suggestions as to the composition of methods of travel the journey took?
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« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2007, 09:52:36 PM »
The sub never moves.  It is a portal.  That is why Locke blew it up even though the Ben states that there is no way for the sub to find it's way back.

The sub had not watermarks.  It had no decompression chamber.  It had RUST about the hatch.

That sub hasn't moved in a long time.

Briefly, old science fiction story.....family travels in a space ship across a huge distance....it's really a space/time loop so you travel instantaneously with reference to external time.  But, you have to be sedated.  If you are not, then exiting from one side of the door to the other seems like an eternity.  If you don't inhale the anesthetic, you will feel that infinite time has gone by and you go mad.

This is why everyone travelling on that sub has to be out during the trip.  Did you notice that the crew sitting in the sub upon juliet awakening were hoarse.  They had been sedated as well.

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Re: One Intense Trip
« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2007, 10:02:38 PM »
Already a thread on this...

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« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2007, 10:08:14 PM »
Ben says they can't come back because the sky turned purple.

Water and Steel make rust. It's just a matter of time, but it always happens.

Ethan's voice wasn't hoarse.

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« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2007, 10:12:38 PM »
woops that was the only thread i didn't look at  :-[
(get it late in the UK)

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Re: One Intense Trip
« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2007, 10:21:37 PM »
The transportation aspect of this episode strongly brings to mind the transportation 'side-effects' of the Philadeplhia Experiment.

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« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2007, 10:27:19 PM »
And what is the Philly Experiment?

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« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2007, 10:37:43 PM »
A reasonable explaination is here, mainly under Synopsis of the Experiment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment

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« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2007, 11:18:40 PM »
The sub does move.  It is at different areas of the dock- at the end in this episode, and along the left side in "Man from Tallahasse."  I did also notice water marks on it while rewatching.  Like it had resurfaced recently and the water was running down the sides.

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« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2007, 08:21:15 AM »
The transportation aspect of this episode strongly brings to mind the transportation 'side-effects' of the Philadeplhia Experiment.

I have thought the same thing after several of the episodes this season.  I wonder if they are trying to tie that in somehow.

Info on the Philadelphia Experiment:

The Philadelphia Experiment was a secret experiment allegedly conducted by the U.S. Navy at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, sometime around the date of October 28th, 1943, in which the U.S. destroyer escort USS Eldridge was to be rendered invisible to human observers for a brief period of time. It is also refered to as Project Rainbow.

The story is widely regarded as a hoax[1] [2] [3]. The U.S. Navy has stated that the experiment never occurred, and furthermore, details of the story contradict established facts about the Eldridge [4]. It has nonetheless caused a significant ripple effect in many conspiracy theory circles, and elements of the Philadelphia Experiment are featured in many other government conspiracy tales.

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Re: One Intense Trip
« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2007, 12:24:05 PM »
The sub shown is a small 6-8 person research sub. Maximum depth is about 1000 feet. Maximum distance isn't more than a hundred miles or so. Can't stay under more than 5 or 6 days tops. They would have had to have flown her to the west coast or hawaii and then pick up a ship that would take her to the sub somewhere in the pacific.

http://www.researchsubmarine.com/s.submarine.html

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« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2007, 12:27:02 PM »
I personally would have refused the sedative. I would enjoy the intense trip. If the pilot can take it, so can I.

Plus we still don't know how they get to the island.


They get to the island by submarine. They showed them climbing out of it.
It showed them already at  the dock in the sub. It did not show them arriving.

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« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2007, 12:51:10 PM »
Normally, a sub ride is the calmest you can imagine.  You are not effected by waves/wind/etc. and the calmness is almost eerie. 

If one were to travel through a magnetic field, which would have to be incredibly strong for any measurable effect at a distance, if you stay along a field line and the static charge is equal around you, you'd notice nothing.  Discrepancies within the field can produce a gradient (left side being more powerful than right and so on) and you could get swayed.

Think about the trip from north america to some tropical island....the sub isn't big enough.  Not enough room for crew, supplies, fuel, prisoner doctors, etc.

The trip must be bumpy for a number of reasons that have nothing to do with anything physical we are considering.  We can argue that they knocked out Juliet because the first time on a sub is a little/lot claustorphic.  I like that rationale over the notion that they wanted to hide the island.  My gosh, the lady's in a sub.  How would she ever know how to follow the course?  What would she see that would guide her?  Nothing.

There was an old Analog Science Fiction story I read about travel across vast distances and time....can't remember the title.....but a kid didn't take his knockout gas and was thus trapped inside his head for an eternity before the family got to their destination.  Maybe being lit is needed to pass between worlds (Echo's flashback....dead girl after autopsy).
Stephen King's short story The Jaunt????

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Re: One Intense Trip
« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2007, 09:04:26 PM »
The sub shown is a small 6-8 person research sub. Maximum depth is about 1000 feet. Maximum distance isn't more than a hundred miles or so. Can't stay under more than 5 or 6 days tops. They would have had to have flown her to the west coast or hawaii and then pick up a ship that would take her to the sub somewhere in the pacific.

http://www.researchsubmarine.com/s.submarine.html

Body and mind...*sigh*

So how long would it take to just sub their way there from Miami or wherever it was that she drank the goodies??