lockesladyness
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« on: April 08, 2007, 10:54:14 PM » |
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curious to find out when... how long before the plane took off... did jack identify christian's body? and how long had the body been in the morgue? so many think he took the spider poison and was still alive... poison effects last 8 hours... if we know when the body got to the morgue and how long it had been there, and how long before the body was loaded on to the plane... this theory can be either proven or disproven.... help, here please!!!
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Jugdish
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2007, 10:58:29 PM » |
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You are assuming that there is a normal trail of activity that a normal body would take. What I mean is that he was found by the police taken to the morgue and identified by Jack in 8 hours. What I think is that he was never found by the police. It was what the hotel employee thought. SO the timeline is not that important. He arranged for the fake identification by Jack. That is all.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2007, 11:13:18 PM » |
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Agree 100%. He only needed to appear dead long enough for Jack to ID him.
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...we've suspended our disbelief years ago. At this point, there are no dumb theories, only mentally exhausted theorists!
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2007, 11:14:57 PM » |
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Right, the rest was paying off people. My whole belief and theory is that very powerful people are involved in the whole mystery. Faking some reports is not difficult for people in power.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2007, 09:26:14 PM » |
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I see some kind of relevance with Christian being alive and being a major part of the island... but it kind of goes against how "The Others" want flawless people... yeah sure Christian is a great surgeon, but he's also an alcoholic... a major flaw. one that has prohibited him from doign what he was greatest at being a surgeon. the the loose end of not finding out what happened to his body is still a great mystery. which i think was hinted upon when Hugo talked about "The Snake" ( played by Billy Dee Williams) in the Left Behind episode. when Hugo says ... "he was the snake the whole time" and " the villan's identity was shrouded in mystery the whole time" could they be talking about Ben, or Christian, or both??? oh and on a side note.. i dont know what Vincent is exactly... but he always seems to go to people that need some kind of "help" or companionship... Walt when his mother died... Shannon, when Boone died.... Michael when he returned without Walt... and then most recently... taking off the blanket from Niki and Palo when they were in fact not really dead....
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...Since the dead guy says there's a reason.. I'd say everything is going to be just peachy...
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Snowy Joe
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2007, 01:53:18 AM » |
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2007, 05:21:23 PM » |
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I'm pretty sure Christian is alive. I don't think there is any consensus to the exact hour as to how long Christian was in the morgue before Jack left, but it had to be long enough to schedule a flight back. Probably between 1 and 3 days.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2007, 09:50:21 PM » |
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I think he is dead too...OR maybe if he is NOT dead, he helped get everything situated for the plane, maybe he faked his death so that Jack would get on that plane, and he was looking for Claire cause even though he had paid the psychic to get her to get on the plane, he wanted to make sure. Ana Lucia he had also talked to to make sure she was that, and HEY Sawyer too....And if he knew about Sawyer, maybe Locke WAS supposed to go on that nature thing, but Christian made sure that they would not allow him. Christian just seems to have TOO many connections to everyone else. So maybe he is not HIM, but maybe he orchestrated this whole mess.
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Snowy Joe
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2007, 10:30:48 PM » |
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i'll say it again... some heavy drugging of christian.. and a teary eyed jack... make the equation/.
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razzle-dazzle
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2007, 12:55:27 PM » |
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I got to thinking about this. How long did Anna Lucia wait to catch a flight after leaving Christian? 8 Days according to Sledge's timeline. EIGHT DAYS? How long would she wait around for him? She doesn't seem like the patient type.Sawyer and Christian drink together when Anna Lucia leaves him at a bar. A bout a week before the Plane crash, according to Sawyer.How long was Jack in Australia? If I remember right the Hotel said something about not seeing Christian for a few days? 4 days?Something doesn't add up here. I can't see Anna Lucia sitting around for that many days (7-8) until she got on Flight 815. Jack had to go looking for Christian, find his body at the morgue, get it ready and book a flight. I guess worst case Jack does that in less than a full day. Still I would love to see a Christian flashback and see what really happened. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2007, 02:52:33 PM » |
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I got to thinking about this. How long did Anna Lucia wait to catch a flight after leaving Christian? 8 Days according to Sledge's timeline. EIGHT DAYS? How long would she wait around for him? She doesn't seem like the patient type.Sawyer and Christian drink together when Anna Lucia leaves him at a bar. A bout a week before the Plane crash, according to Sawyer.How long was Jack in Australia? If I remember right the Hotel said something about not seeing Christian for a few days? 4 days?Something doesn't add up here. I can't see Anna Lucia sitting around for that many days (7-8) until she got on Flight 815. Jack had to go looking for Christian, find his body at the morgue, get it ready and book a flight. I guess worst case Jack does that in less than a full day. Still I would love to see a Christian flashback and see what really happened.  Maybe Ana killed Christian... j/k everyone!
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2007, 05:17:09 PM » |
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I got to thinking about this. How long did Anna Lucia wait to catch a flight after leaving Christian? 8 Days according to Sledge's timeline. EIGHT DAYS? How long would she wait around for him? She doesn't seem like the patient type.Sawyer and Christian drink together when Anna Lucia leaves him at a bar. A bout a week before the Plane crash, according to Sawyer.How long was Jack in Australia? If I remember right the Hotel said something about not seeing Christian for a few days? 4 days?Something doesn't add up here. I can't see Anna Lucia sitting around for that many days (7-8) until she got on Flight 815. Jack had to go looking for Christian, find his body at the morgue, get it ready and book a flight. I guess worst case Jack does that in less than a full day. Still I would love to see a Christian flashback and see what really happened.  My belief as well. Ive been watching season 2 on dvd and last night I watched two for the road, which is the episode michael comes back and kills libby and anna lucia, It is the anna centric episode in which she is with christian. This whole time line is missing something huge in my opinion. She was in the car and Christian told her that he couldnt not thank his son and blah blah blah. This is when she realized that what she was doing was not right and she needed to stop drinking and start talking to her mom again. Seems like she would leave later that day or the next day at the very latest. I also need help adding up the timeline that Christian was at the hospital with his Claires mom. Also can Juggy or someone who knows give me a list of all the episodes we see Christian in a flashback please. I want to go back and watch them all and try to figure out a good timeline, because I dont think some of the ones on here are all that accurate.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2007, 12:42:50 PM » |
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If the plane did crash than I seriously doubt any father would knowingly put his children in harms way. There was NO guarentee that Jack or Claire would survive the plane crash. I don't believe Christian had anything to do with puttting certain people on the flight 815. Remember Ben told Jack, "Do you believe in fate?" Ben had a back problem and a back surgeon shows up. I think Ben was genuinely surprised at having Jack on the airplane. Ben sends his people to both crash sites to check up on the people there. Ben discovers their names and together with Mikhail and his friends back in the states he does a background check on every survivor. Having Christian alive would make sense, how else would Claire and Jack find out the truth? Also on the final episode and Jack's "flashforwards" I will post my theory in the spoiler section.
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