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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2007, 04:17:03 PM »
WhatThe,

What do you want to see from the Rose and Bernard story? What do you think they can add? I'm not understanding the passion to see them return...

As far as shooting the flashbacks from the beginning, in a perfect world, I am sure they would have done that, but in reality, they are dealing with actors that can be egotistic, venues that can change, and other venues that won't allow for a perfect plan to take place...

See Eko... he had contract issues, but the writers would have loved to have him around as he was a valued character. But it doesn't always work out.

Enjoy the fantasy of the show, and don't concentrate so much of minor visual details... it will take away from it.

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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2007, 04:20:23 PM »
I think that if you think ANY show out there is filming scenes one or even two years appart, then you're crazy.  The lost producers do have a "plan" for this show.  That means that they sat down and planned out the overall story arc.  And they probably planned out some of the characters stories as well, but not all of them.  As they shoot new episodes they are forever evolving and tweaking this storyline.  They don't necessarily know everything they're going to do with every character until they do it.  But I don't think ANY show knows that, and I think it would be bad if they did.  Perfect example is Libby.  They said they always planned to kill Ana Lucia, but they didn't expect fans to hate her so much.  when they realized that they felt that to get the emotional response they wanted from the death, they had to kill another character.  So they killed Libby off too. Even though they hadn't completed her whole backstory.  They realized they could tell the rest of her story through other character's flashbacks.  So I agree that the great thing about lost is the preplanning, but I also think the great thing about lost is their ability to adapt to the things viewers are and aren't responding to quickly.  But still keeping the overall final outcome of the story (in their minds) unchanged.

I mean, I love Rose and Bernard, but I have no need to see them in the background.  There is much more I want to see right now and get pissed about not seeing.  ;)

But to each his own as well.

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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2007, 04:27:50 PM »
WhatThe,

What do you want to see from the Rose and Bernard story? What do you think they can add? I'm not understanding the passion to see them return...

They were warm, interesting characters who added a touch of real romance and love to the story...the Jack-Kate-Sawyer triangle has lost steam, seeing Hurley engulf Libby as they kissed was somewhat cringe-inducing, and both Charlie and Claire take turns being too irritating to care if they are together or if they split up. ARE they even together? Who knows, who cares.

Also, Rose had a connection with Locke in that she knew his "secret" and had been healed by the island as well...could have gone further into that story arc, delved a bit more into that aspect. She also shared that spiritual calmness that Locke and Ecko both shared. That's been sorely missed this season in my eyes.

Lastly, they would have been FAR more interesting to watch than Nikki and Paulo. Both were given more than enough screen time this season...why not have that screen time and those flashbacks/storylines developed for two people who are ALREADY known and well-liked?

I understand scheduling conflicts, but let's not act surprised when fans of this show start to wonder about past characters that were part of their initial love of the series to begin with. Nobody here should have a problem with any of us wishing they were still being included in the episodes.
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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2007, 05:21:22 PM »
Lastly, they would have been FAR more interesting to watch than Nikki and Paulo. Both were given more than enough screen time this season...why not have that screen time and those flashbacks/storylines developed for two people who are ALREADY known and well-liked?

A big AMEN to that! 
I have no huge love of Rose and Bernard, but I'd rather watch them ANYDAY to Nikki and Paulo!  And at least R and B were good actors!

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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2007, 05:35:29 PM »
Nice post, WhatThe, well put. You'd think someone could at least mention Rose in Bernard in passing (like "...so I was talking to Rose and Bernard and Neil the Frogurt guy this morning, and...").  At least Vincent has been making an occasional appearance. If they write him out of the show too, then I'll really be mad!

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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2007, 05:58:18 PM »
I think Rose and Bernard are gone because they are not important anymore.  They are content to stay on the Island because Rose is healthy there.  No more decisions to be made.

I think that Rose and Bernard were there to point out to people that there are places in the world where electromagnetic forces are high and that are rumored to have healing powers.  Their flashbacks were all building up to their trip to that Australian mountain, where Bernard thinks Rose can be healed but where the guy running the place says that this is not the place that will cure her.  There may be such a place, but Australia is not it.

So, from her backstory we get that (a) there are places at intersections of lay lines (lines of electromagnetic eneergy) that are rumored to heal people, and (b) not every place works for every person.  Foreshadowing to Ben's predicament, maybe?

I think their backstories were simply meant to explain that, and that task has been accomplished, and now they are gone.  Just like Paulo and Nikki.  The existed simply to tell a story and now that it's done they are gone.

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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2007, 06:14:41 PM »
Personally, I could still see some use for Rose and Bernard, but I never did see any use for throwing Nikki and Paolo in the mix. And now that they're gone, I still don't. Anything we may think we learned last night could still easily be excised back out of the story and plotlines and nobody would miss it.

I haven't a clue why they threw those two into the mix in the third season. They honestly didn't advance any storylines half as much as Rose did.

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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2007, 07:20:49 PM »
Rose and Bernard drag the show down.  I would've rather seen them mysteriously murdered.  Rose and Bernard the diamond thieves.

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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2009, 10:30:41 PM »
My theory about Rose and Bernard is simple.  They disappear to the caves where they make wild passionate love to each other.  Or they head to one of the empty hatches and have a few glasses Dharma wine, whiskey or whatever, smoke a few cigs and chilax! 


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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2009, 02:48:16 PM »
My theory about Rose and Bernard is simple.  They disappear to the caves where they make wild passionate love to each other.  Or they head to one of the empty hatches and have a few glasses Dharma wine, whiskey or whatever, smoke a few cigs and chilax! 


i had to stop at "wild passionate love."  i threw up.  ewww....

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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2009, 03:03:20 PM »
My theory about Rose and Bernard is simple.  They disappear to the caves where they make wild passionate love to each other.  Or they head to one of the empty hatches and have a few glasses Dharma wine, whiskey or whatever, smoke a few cigs and chilax! 


i had to stop at "wild passionate love."  i threw up.  ewww....

LB God bless you!  you crack me up!  I always make jokes about these two disappearing and well I finally had to place the words down on here!

Then I think of them being in a jungle and that song Jungle Love keeps playing over and over in my mind.  Of course I can't visualize these two cause I would have to throw up too! ;D

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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2009, 05:01:03 PM »
My theory about Rose and Bernard is simple.  They disappear to the caves where they make wild passionate love to each other.  Or they head to one of the empty hatches and have a few glasses Dharma wine, whiskey or whatever, smoke a few cigs and chilax! 


i had to stop at "wild passionate love."  i threw up.  ewww....

LB God bless you!  you crack me up!  I always make jokes about these two disappearing and well I finally had to place the words down on here!

Then I think of them being in a jungle and that song Jungle Love keeps playing over and over in my mind.  Of course I can't visualize these two cause I would have to throw up too! ;D
I might be scarred for life----its like....like....thinking about your parents....EWEWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEE!!!

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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2009, 05:13:05 PM »
My theory about Rose and Bernard is simple.  They disappear to the caves where they make wild passionate love to each other.  Or they head to one of the empty hatches and have a few glasses Dharma wine, whiskey or whatever, smoke a few cigs and chilax! 


i had to stop at "wild passionate love."  i threw up.  ewww....

LB God bless you!  you crack me up!  I always make jokes about these two disappearing and well I finally had to place the words down on here!

Then I think of them being in a jungle and that song Jungle Love keeps playing over and over in my mind.  Of course I can't visualize these two cause I would have to throw up too! ;D
I might be scarred for life----its like....like....thinking about your parents....EWEWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEE!!!
only if your parents have bad teeth.  that's what grosses me out.  bernard's teeth, i can't imagine kissing him!  YUCK!

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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2009, 05:33:14 PM »
okay ladies the imagery was not for one to actually see them bumping on hump day.  It was all figurative.

Yeah his teeth and he is a dentist ::)

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Re: Where are Rose and Bernard?
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2009, 06:03:10 PM »
okay ladies the imagery was not for one to actually see them bumping on hump day.  It was all figurative.

Yeah his teeth and he is a dentist ::)
He must not be a very good dentist*ggls*!  Still EWWWWWWWEEEEEE!