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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2007, 12:10:17 AM »
So my theory still holds up.  TPTB take every possible Sci Fi reference they can find and throw it in, only they come up with some logical explanation for it and reveal it later.

If you reference lots of different themes, people are bound to recognize some of them and think, hey, I know what it is!

So just remember, it's like Purgatory, but it isn't.  It's like Vanilla Sky, the Bermuda Triangle, Nanobots, Star Wars, Atlantis,..., but it isn't.

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2007, 12:31:30 AM »
They were looking at the ocean, the sky, the tip of the airplane wing, the ground.  It doesn't matter cause they're now taking a dirt nap.

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2007, 01:18:49 AM »
So my theory still holds up.  TPTB take every possible Sci Fi reference they can find and throw it in, only they come up with some logical explanation for it and reveal it later.

If you reference lots of different themes, people are bound to recognize some of them and think, hey, I know what it is!

So just remember, it's like Purgatory, but it isn't.  It's like Vanilla Sky, the Bermuda Triangle, Nanobots, Star Wars, Atlantis,..., but it isn't.
Matrix, Forbidden Planet, Earth 2....  ::)

I hear ya'. :)

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2007, 08:51:23 AM »
So my theory still holds up.  TPTB take every possible Sci Fi reference they can find and throw it in, only they come up with some logical explanation for it and reveal it later.

If you reference lots of different themes, people are bound to recognize some of them and think, hey, I know what it is!

So just remember, it's like Purgatory, but it isn't.  It's like Vanilla Sky, the Bermuda Triangle, Nanobots, Star Wars, Atlantis,..., but it isn't.

LoL...exactly. Well, actually, I had the theory that the writers DID have one specific explanation behind all the island stuff, but fans figured it out so quickly that they changed the reason behind what we experience. Then fans figured out that new reason really quickly, so they changed the reason/secret for the island and everything once again...only to have the fans figure THAT out immediately once more lol.

The way I see it, Lost is on its fourteenth explanation/reason...and the writers are saying to themselves "PLEASE don't figure this one out yet!"

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2007, 09:05:12 AM »
One reason they couldn't have all died in the plane crash is that Kate remembers the whole crash.  Everyone else blacks out, but she makes it clear she was conscious for the whole thing and seemed traumatized by it.  That kind of ruins the idea that they all died.  Especially since while the island has healing powers, it can't heal your guts back into your stomach or your limbs back onto your body.  Otherwise, when that one guy gets sucked into the engine, he would've brushed himself off and said "I'm ok!"

As for what they were looking at.  I think they were just staring blankly in shock and disbelief.  Or maybe there were mermen waving to them from the ocean.

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2007, 09:11:03 AM »
I've read your theories on this in another thread, & have to admit that it seems to be growing on me.   :)

It's purgatory, but it's not.  lol

I'm just still not sure how the Others, Kelvin, Juliet, etc. fit in.  Are you saying that ALL inhabitants of the island died, or just the Losties?

I don't think they all died.  I really don't know how the Others and Juliet and so forth fit in.  I think that Locke's belief that Ben and the Others have somehow betrayed the Island and no longer get some of it's benefits has some merit.  If you think about it, the Losties were like a blank slate when they, literally, hit the Island.  Yet to be judged as good or bad, they got the full help of the Island.  Who knows what happens later on?

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2007, 09:15:40 AM »
The problem that I have is, why did some people die then?  Just playing devils advocate.

Like Nancy Drew said, some things can't be healed.  Anyone who was stuck inside the plane did not seem to be healed.  I think that's because they were not in direct contact with the Island.  I don't remember them pulling anybody out of the wreckage.  As far as I know, everybody who was still alive was lying in the sand or in the jungle or in the water.  I think if you have some foreign material in you, the Island can't get it out...shrapnel, bullet, whatever.  I also think, like Nancy said, that you can't come back from a drowning or being buried.  I mean, say you do get revived, and you're on the bottom of the ocean....you just drown again.  Sort of cruel, don't you think?

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2007, 09:44:33 AM »
So my theory still holds up.  TPTB take every possible Sci Fi reference they can find and throw it in, only they come up with some logical explanation for it and reveal it later.

If you reference lots of different themes, people are bound to recognize some of them and think, hey, I know what it is!

So just remember, it's like Purgatory, but it isn't.  It's like Vanilla Sky, the Bermuda Triangle, Nanobots, Star Wars, Atlantis,..., but it isn't.

I think you're right.  It's like all that stuff may have something to do with what's going on, but it's not the real reason.  Maybe the Island is just a place where all this stuff can happen, but it's not really what it's all about.  You can see it with religion and culture, too.  You've got elements of Buddhism, Christianity, Egyptology, four-toed dudes.....lots of things going on.  Maybe it's some kind of Unified Theory concept.

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2007, 11:05:55 AM »
So, they found the "Garden of Eden" and if they remain pure they can benefit... if they stray they lose any healing powers, etc. the "garden" has to offer?

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2007, 11:44:22 AM »
So, they found the "Garden of Eden" and if they remain pure they can benefit... if they stray they lose any healing powers, etc. the "garden" has to offer?

That's what I'm thinking.  Locke alludes to it in "The Man from Talahassee."  He basically says that he was cured from his paralysis because he was being true to the Island or whatever, and that Ben had not been cured from his tumor because he was going against the Island.

A lot of people have brought up the fact that the writers stated in the ABC podcast that those who die on the Island are dead.  It's true, that's what they said.  But, in the latest podcast, Cuse says that Mikhail may not be dead, and alludes to the fact that he may come back.  They also refer to Christian's corpse...not Christian, as somebody has already pointed out.  That leads me to believe that Christian is dead.

So, maybe I should state it this way.....on the Island, stuff that would normally kill you....irreversible injuries, let's say.....are reversible.  That would give them an out for bringing back Mikhail.  Maybe he wasn't dead, just seriously screwed up to the point that there was no chance of his living ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD.  On the Island, however, he can come back.  Locke healed from irreversible (?) paralysis, Rose healed from incurable cancer, but neither one was actually dead yet.  Charlie, by all accounts, should have choked to death or had his neck broken when he was hanged (anybody disagree with that?), but he didn't.  Locke/Desmond/Charlie should have died from traumatic injuries in the hatch explosion, but didn't.

In contrast, anybody who has definitely died, such as Ana Lucia/the Marshall/Libby/the woman Sun shot on the boat/Adam &Eve/Roger Work Man/etc, is not coming back.

So, maybe I should amend my theory by saying that, instead of them coming back to life after the crash, they were simply not allowed to die when they should have.  But, there is a limit to it, and there were some people that just couldn't be brought back because there injuries were too critical or they didn't have close enough contact (physically, like the people remaining in the fuselage) with the Island.

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2007, 12:11:02 PM »
They were looking at the ocean, the sky, the tip of the airplane wing, the ground.  It doesn't matter cause they're now taking a dirt nap.

Maybe Paulo was looking for "Mr. Sandman - to bring him a dream..."  :D
I am more curious as to what Sawyer was looking at when he found the shoe in the tree.
Hurley even asked him about it.

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2007, 12:37:54 PM »
They were looking at the ocean, the sky, the tip of the airplane wing, the ground.  It doesn't matter cause they're now taking a dirt nap.

Maybe Paulo was looking for "Mr. Sandman - to bring him a dream..."  :D
I am more curious as to what Sawyer was looking at when he found the shoe in the tree.
Hurley even asked him about it.


That's a good question.  I thought I saw trees move, but figured it was just me.  Then I thought that he might have heard something.  People have mentioned hearing the Smoke Monster, but I didn't catch it.

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2007, 02:20:14 PM »
They were looking at the ocean, the sky, the tip of the airplane wing, the ground.  It doesn't matter cause they're now taking a dirt nap.

Maybe Paulo was looking for "Mr. Sandman - to bring him a dream..."  :D
I am more curious as to what Sawyer was looking at when he found the shoe in the tree.
Hurley even asked him about it.


I think that he saw where Nikki had been digging, but I have been wrong before.

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2007, 02:41:30 PM »
Carlton said Patchy might not be dead but Damon said he was dead.  Which goes to show you can't really trust what they say.  They like to mess with the fans because they know the fans will analyze what they say and quote them.  Who is to say he died in the first place?  We saw him go through a barrier, scream, and spit out some crap.  It could've all been an act or his injuries may not have been life-threatening.  I don't remember anyone actually checking his vital signs.

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Re: What Were Nikki and Paulo Looking At?
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2007, 02:47:58 PM »
Exactly, Maxor....he LOOKED dead, and anywhere else in the world we would just assume that anybody who got deep fried by a sonic fence would BE dead, but on the Island you had better hook up the heart monitor and do a brain scan to make sure.