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« on: March 16, 2007, 08:13:21 PM » |
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I started wondering about his a bit when she said sorry to her mum and says she wishes she hadn't said she wanted her mum dead before the crash. Walt could make things happen - maybe Claire can too. I know lots of bratty teens say things like that and she was driving so she could have done with normal power not necessarily special power.
It also struck a chord with me when she was recounting what Dessie had told her to Charlie - on all occassions where Dessie has saved Chrlies life, Claire has been the very thing that Charlie is sheltering/saving/helping - maybe Charlie would be ok without Claire around.
(which would make her more of a Hurley jinx then a special Walt but still the cause)
Either way - there's something not quite normal - at least I think so......what's your thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2007, 02:57:59 PM » |
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I dont think that claire is special, but i kind of agree that without claire, charlie might be safer. But what i dont understand is why charlie didnt die earlier, when he was going on adventures and dangerous things in the jungle. And also, what was the first situation where he was supposed to die but someone intervened? Was it when he was hanged in the jungle? Or was it earlier in life? Could the crash been a result of this course correcting?? I dont know....But i think claire is normal...
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2007, 02:43:53 AM » |
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I am not sure if claire is special, but she has the belief that people can see the future and predict the future. She listened to the fortune teller and went on that plane. She is open to this kind of thinking.
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2007, 06:21:05 AM » |
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I don't think Charlie woud be safer without Claire around. Afterall, the guy in Desmond's flashback died simply from standing in the wrong place on a city sidewalk. The jewerly store woman knew he'd die, regardless of what she did or what he did. There didn't need to be any dangerous action on his part.
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2007, 08:42:37 AM » |
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Well if charlie were to stand in the middle of a field, he more than likely wouldnt die. Each situation where he should have died was a direct or indirect result of something dangerous.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2007, 09:42:21 AM » |
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How come every time Des sees Charlie die it is when he is close to Claire?
It seems like Charlie isn't meant to be with Claire according to whomever is giving Des his visions of the future.
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2007, 11:21:15 AM » |
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Yeah but i think those situations with claire involving charlie dying are the only ones b/c he hasnt put himself in any other dangerous situations. Claire is just a dangerous person to be in love with...
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2007, 08:41:19 PM » |
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I am a believer that Claire is actually the one who is getting saved all the time. She is the one who Desmond told to move up the beach (because of the lightening), she was the one drowning in the ocean, and she was the one infatuated with finding those birds. I think Claire does have powers and I will tell ya why: the psychic she saw was admittedly a fake, yet he saw something about her that made him scared. I think he channeled her energy and got the reading and it was about her death. I think that is why he sent her on a plane because it would be removing her from her certain death in Sydney. I think it is also the reason why he told her that she had to be the one raising the baby, like she would take better care of herself. Then he changed his mind because maybe during the second reading he saw her die anyway, so he figured she had better find a family to raise the baby.
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2007, 05:41:39 PM » |
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well, claire was orignially told that she had to raise that baby on her own. perhaps it's aaron and not claire that is dangerous to charlie.
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2007, 11:47:03 PM » |
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well, claire was orignially told that she had to raise that baby on her own. perhaps it's aaron and not claire that is dangerous to charlie.
that's not a bad thought. sort of like aaron is "bad luck" to anyone wanting to raise/take him. i sort of like the idea. |
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2007, 12:37:58 AM » |
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I agree that Claire is actually the one who is causing problems. The way the (phsychic) looked at her awekwardly and all that good stuff.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2007, 01:50:08 AM » |
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It's seems to me that Desmond is saving Claire, not Charlie. My mind is having a bit trouble trying to wrap around this whole Desmond/Charlie/time travel/death vision thing. It's so complicated and it just doesn't all seem to add up. It's Jack who saves Charlie when he was hanging. Desmond claims to have saved Charlie by getting to Claire in the ocean before him, but to me, that just means that he saved Claire and not Charlie (sorry, thats confusing in my head too!) I definately think Claire is special and for some reason, I'm leaning towards the theory that Desmond is actually saving her all these times and not Charlie. Just don't ask me to back it up yet!   |
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2007, 09:20:03 AM » |
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It's seems to me that Desmond is saving Claire, not Charlie. My mind is having a bit trouble trying to wrap around this whole Desmond/Charlie/time travel/death vision thing. It's so complicated and it just doesn't all seem to add up. It's Jack who saves Charlie when he was hanging. Desmond claims to have saved Charlie by getting to Claire in the ocean before him, but to me, that just means that he saved Claire and not Charlie (sorry, thats confusing in my head too!) I definately think Claire is special and for some reason, I'm leaning towards the theory that Desmond is actually saving her all these times and not Charlie. Just don't ask me to back it up yet! |
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2007, 10:59:21 AM » |
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It's seems to me that Desmond is saving Claire, not Charlie. My mind is having a bit trouble trying to wrap around this whole Desmond/Charlie/time travel/death vision thing. It's so complicated and it just doesn't all seem to add up. It's Jack who saves Charlie when he was hanging. Desmond claims to have saved Charlie by getting to Claire in the ocean before him, but to me, that just means that he saved Claire and not Charlie (sorry, thats confusing in my head too!) I definately think Claire is special and for some reason, I'm leaning towards the theory that Desmond is actually saving her all these times and not Charlie. Just don't ask me to back it up yet!
I think I still believe what Des said is the truth...he is saving Charlie
Maybe by saving Charlie he saves Claire at the same time. |
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2007, 11:29:44 AM » |
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I 100% believe Des and he is saving Charlie. No doubt in my mind. Which means I am likely wrong  |
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