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Offline madmax22e

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Re: lost is back!
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2007, 01:07:56 AM »
besides how cruel would it be to show a long cable going into the ocean and then 2 seasons later explain it falsely. not giving answers is one thing, but to give out fake ones after all this time is just mean.

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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2007, 09:53:05 AM »
And that's exectly one of the things that irks me. You have to assume that most of what the Others say is false. You also have to assume that most of what is presented by the Dharma videos and manuals is part of an experiment. So, while we think the computer controlled the food drops and caused the explosion, there might be someone else on the other end of the camera in that room executing commands that Wickman/Candle reads - this could explain why the commands weren't just presented on screen. The fake arm could have been used to make the flame staff think there was a threat from hostles ("see, they took my arm"). The dish and the cables might be for show... I guess we'll never know now :)

I think there was a purge, but I think the Others did the purging I'm starting to wonder now what was Danielle's role in the purge. Typically in the movies, when you tell about an event and someone is immediately shown, you later come to find out that they were the one being spoken about. In this episode, Mikhael mentioned surviving the attack by a group of scientists, then Danielle shows up.

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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2007, 10:30:51 AM »
I think we do have to believe most of what the others have told us. They have never lied to us. Even Mickail came clean on his one lie about being Dharma. The rest is truth.

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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2007, 10:53:53 AM »
I think we do have to believe most of what the others have told us. They have never lied to us. Even Mickail came clean on his one lie about being Dharma. The rest is truth.
i agree juggie.  i would like to add, that although we may not understand what they have told us, or understand their reasoning behind it, i still think for the most part they are telling the truth.  when they have lied to us (ben/patchy/juliet) it has been for a short time, lies to gain trust or information with the losties.  i'm starting to believe the others at face value.  i know there is much more underneath them, but i am finally starting to see them as humans, real people, with real emotions, rather than just some crazy island people with no moral compass.

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Re: lost is back!
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2007, 12:15:06 PM »
Oh they are still wack jobs with out moral compass, but they tell us the truth most of the time.

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Re: lost is back!
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2007, 01:14:20 PM »
Ben-Fake Henry, has said in the past,"We are not the Bad Guys"

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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2007, 01:54:25 PM »
I totally agree, Rick.

While episodes like "Tricia Tanaka" are ok sometimes for light-hearted character development, it bored the stuffing out of me.

Then "Enter 77" comes along and blows my socks off.  We suddenly think "now we're getting answers, woohoo!" and then they discredit the storyteller and blow up the Flame, making us start from near scratch again.  Even so, I really enjoy that, because it does answer SOME questions.  I love this show!

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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2007, 03:56:29 PM »
I think the cool thing about this show is the little answers in each episode and when you watch the show from beginning to end (whenever that will be) everything will be connected some way and all loose ends will be tied up.  When I was watching last night's episode I was thinking, that all these episode should be 2 hours cause theres so much info out there and it seems like they can't tell us in just 1 hour an episode.

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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2007, 09:45:19 PM »
Oh they are still wack jobs with out moral compass, but they tell us the truth most of the time.

Remember that Ben spent his first season on the show as Henry Gale. Remember that the Others have roamed the jungle in costumes, pretending to be uncivilized. Henry didn't push the button in Lockdown... or maybe he did. "We've never hurt anyone... we're the good guys" except for a neck snap, dismemberment, hanging and kidnapping every once in a while. Oh, and the whole "Your heart will explode" gag. Even Walt knows that they lie all the time. They tell Jack is was a miracle that he fell from the sky, yet they have a folder with all of his personal information and his father's autopsy report... or do they? They do an excellent job of changing their stories to fit the circumstances. It makes for interesting TV though.

My only burning question at this point is to know more about Ben's backstory - has he really been on the island his whole life? So far, everyone else seems to have been recruited.

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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2007, 09:50:31 PM »
I got about one-fourth of the way into the show last night and (although alone in the house) I yelled out, "YES! Now THIS is why I watch Lost!"

Gahhh, I love this show.  Glad it's finally back, with plenty of episodes still left in the season.  :)

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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2007, 10:49:02 PM »
I did the same thing.

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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2007, 05:26:00 AM »
the others have only ever lied to us... what truth have they ever said that we can bank on?  Ben showing Sawyer the other island....  I don't understand why we would automatically assume that Mr. Patchy said anything meaningful to us... it all made logical sense but that doesn't make it true

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Re: lost is back!
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2007, 05:37:10 AM »
the others have only ever lied to us... what truth have they ever said that we can bank on?  Ben showing Sawyer the other island....  I don't understand why we would automatically assume that Mr. Patchy said anything meaningful to us... it all made logical sense but that doesn't make it true
As I said before, there is ONE PERSON in this island that their lies can't fool: SAYID. And he accepted some information from Mikhail as truth, and those I believe.

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« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2007, 06:19:49 AM »
Sayid practically handed him the answers... Patchy mainly had to agree or not... I think Sayid got the answers he wanted

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Re: lost is back!
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2007, 06:37:24 AM »
besides how cruel would it be to show a long cable going into the ocean and then 2 seasons later explain it falsely. not giving answers is one thing, but to give out fake ones after all this time is just mean.
But considering Desmond's failed escape, and the directions they gave to Michael, the cable could be a magnetic lighthouse/flare leading outside the island.