Lip Reading

[jugdish]

I think Juliette was putting doubt in Jacks mind about Ben's promises to him.

[uofapiglet]

Waiting for spooky to do the transcript on Lost-TV to see if any dialogue was actually written for Ben to say, but I'm glad you asked if anyrone read lips anyway, cuz I was going to ask about this too since we're all so interested in what Ben had to say to Juliet, and what is the "history" between them that Tom was talking about...

I'm still rying to find someone that speaks Korean to translate some of the stuff that Jin says that they don't add subtitles to...

My boyfriend is mostly deaf and uses lip reading and hearing aids to hear.  I will ask him to read what Ben said for me, I didn't even think about it til I read this post....  It is a very handy skill to have.....

Also, I have a friend who translates the untranslated Korean for me so if you ever have questions feel free to ask me..... 

It's really sad that I am so obsessed with this show that I seriously ask people to translate stuff for me all the time......  I act like it is life or death to know every single word......

Ooooh, I'm so excited! Thank, that would be awesome if your bf got some cool insight just from reading Ben's lips because the writers/producers gave us that scene for some reason...Be sure to let us know if there's anything remotely interesting coming from Ben's lip-reading scene...

Anyway, Nikki Stafford's book "Finding Lost:An Unofficial Guide" gives a few translations for some of the Spanish and Korean lines that weren't subtitled on the show, but thanks nevertheless...

[LOSTBamaGRL]

Just to update everyone, I asked him to check the scene out again (he didn't pick it up the first time because he was too busy reading the captions....).  But he is going to study it the first chance he gets and get back to me.  I expect to have something posted one way or another by Wednesday morning at the latest....  I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it is something interesting......

[ButchFitz]

Thank you very much, i'm looking forward to it. I'm just hoping all of this doesn't turn out to be a waste of time.

[JBRam]

Thank you very much, i'm looking forward to it. I'm just hoping all of this doesn't turn out to be a waste of time.

Same here... thank him a ton from all of us!

[Sweet Old Lady]

Yes, do thank him.  And thank you, BamaGirl.  Meanwhile, I gave it my best shot and I think Ben is telling Juliet that maybe she should help them (Kate, Sawyer.)  I hope your bf doesn't have to stand on his head to read Ben's upside-down lips!  I did and all the blood rushed to my head!  I should have just held a mirror under the screen and looked at that!

[jugdish]

that must of been some scene, you on your head trying to read lips.

[uofapiglet]

You're too funny SOL!

[LOSTBamaGRL]

Yes, do thank him.  And thank you, BamaGirl.  Meanwhile, I gave it my best shot and I think Ben is telling Juliet that maybe she should help them (Kate, Sawyer.)  I hope your bf doesn't have to stand on his head to read Ben's upside-down lips!  I did and all the blood rushed to my head!  I should have just held a mirror under the screen and looked at that!

 
I'm still waiting on a verdict from him.....He has promised to do it tonight.  I downloaded the episode from my tivo to my laptop and then watched the scene while holding my computer upside down to save me from the blood rush....  I've started to pick up lip reading from him a bit....  I make out the word boat in the first segment and the second segment "help them".  I will let you know as I know more.... 

[LOSTBamaGRL]

Unfotunately, all he says is, "I want you to help them [with or to] my boat. I want you to help them, Juliet, help them." 

I was hoping for something more drastic, but at least it doesn't rule out the fact that Juliet could not be telling Jack the truth or the whole truth. 

I think if he had HDTV he would be able to read Ben's lips in the mirrored reflection part of the scene as well, but for regular tv its just to small and to clear to make out.....

[JBRam]

Unfotunately, all he says is, "I want you to help them [with or to] my boat. I want you to help them, Juliet, help them." 

I was hoping for something more drastic, but at least it doesn't rule out the fact that Juliet could not be telling Jack the truth or the whole truth. 

I think if he had HDTV he would be able to read Ben's lips in the mirrored reflection part of the scene as well, but for regular tv its just to small and to clear to make out.....

Thanks anyways!!! Someone chip in a few hundred dollars for HDTV for Bama's boy!

[jugdish]

So she was telling the truth on Ben telling her to help them. We just don't know what leverage he used, off the island or something else.

[FrostyLosty]

Play the scene backwards, the Lost producers seem to like hidden messages back-to-front atm.

[ButchFitz]

At least we found out that the boat belongs to Ben!

[LOSTBamaGRL]

At least we found out that the boat belongs to Ben!

Well when Ben said that to Juliet she didn't know they were with Alex....so I think they ended up using Alex's boat not the one Ben had told her to use....I think??