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« Reply #75 on: February 13, 2007, 08:49:30 AM » |
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That is exactly why they are not in cahoots, Danielle did not know who she had in her net.
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« Reply #76 on: February 13, 2007, 09:28:48 AM » |
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How can we be sure that Rousseau hasn't been an Other the whole time, and stationed on the island to interact sincerely with our islanders? One speculation: She's not a plant, but a runaway Other. How is it possible that she has NEVER seen an Other before catching Ben in the net? Yet she knows he will lie for a long time. She knows to set booby traps, not just for food animals, but to make sure her dugout explode if Others try to mess with it. She seems pretty adaptive to survival and has some pretty nice supplies. She probably legitimately caught Ben but neither one is going to completely spoil the other one's story to the Losties. As to why Ben, the alleged "leader", was sent on the mission to the main island, it's fairly simple. He's not the leader. He's probably the most skilled agent, most resistive to torture, best able to think on his feet. He's probably very receptive to the telepathic whispers which help provide guidance with his storytelling. |
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« Reply #77 on: February 13, 2007, 09:54:00 AM » |
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i think danielle has not seen the others in all these years because they have not wanted to be seen. they have hidden from her so as to hide alex from her too. basically they have ignored her.
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« Reply #78 on: February 13, 2007, 12:01:42 PM » |
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« Reply #79 on: February 13, 2007, 12:02:27 PM » |
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i think danielle has not seen the others in all these years because they have not wanted to be seen. they have hidden from her so as to hide alex from her too. basically they have ignored her.
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« Reply #80 on: February 13, 2007, 04:45:56 PM » |
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i think danielle has not seen the others in all these years because they have not wanted to be seen. they have hidden from her so as to hide alex from her too. basically they have ignored her.
agreed! LB, if you keep posting things like this, you're going to have quite a following. I agree too. |
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« Reply #81 on: February 13, 2007, 04:56:42 PM » |
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I am going out on a limb here and saying that isn't exactly it.
Please allow me to speculate:
1) Rousseau's ship crashes on the island due to an incident with the Swan.
2) They discover the transmitter that was transmitting the numbers.
3) The crew becomes "infected."
4) Rousseau kills them all because she is afraid they will infect the baby.
5) She changes the message on the transmitter to imply it was the monster on the island and not her that killed her crew.
6) Ben "rescues" Rousseau and tells her he has a cure.
7) Rousseau has Alex.
8 ) Ben takes Alex, and they attempt to condition Rousseau.
9) The conditioning doesn't work, but drives her crazy.
10) They dump her off on the other side of the island.
11) She is too crazy to leave her part of the island and can't find the Staff station because it is hidden.
12) She goes more crazy as the "years" go on.
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« Reply #82 on: February 13, 2007, 05:13:10 PM » |
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Good thoughts, except for one part:
Why didn't she keep Ben and force him to take her to Alex?
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« Reply #83 on: February 13, 2007, 06:13:07 PM » |
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Good thoughts, except for one part:
Why didn't she keep Ben and force him to take her to Alex?
I think one of his main points is that she's crazy.  |
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« Reply #84 on: February 13, 2007, 10:11:45 PM » |
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You'd think that no matter how crazy she is, if she is always screaming for Alex, then she'd at least mention Alex to Ben.
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« Reply #85 on: February 14, 2007, 12:09:42 AM » |
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If he was part of Danielles team why would she hand him over to Sayid when he gets trapped in the net?
I agree he is a liar but I dont think he had anything to do with Danielle getting pregnant
Because he abandoned her, which is a decent theory, and she's getting retribution by calling him an other, and she probably didn't even know who he was. For the time being until I am proved wrong, and I won't be, I am right when I say that Ben is Alex's real father. |
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« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2007, 12:23:18 AM » |
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MAN YOU GUYS ARE TRUSTING A LIARS WORDS (BEN) AND A CRAZY FRENCH BITCH WITH YOUR PRIDE!
One is a lyin' piece of garbage and the other has more screws loose than an LA Hooker.
There's more to the story than we know.
And I'm not going to sit here and believe that Rousseau killed her whole crew over a virus which is non-existant. That's obviously not true so Rousseau could very easily be an other
radical.
If you guys want to throw out theories about how Ben and Danielle are not connected some how besides the fact that he stole Alex, then go ahead, and I'll bring my own theory.
One of us will be right.
I'll drink a Guinness for ya after I celebrate when I'm right.
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« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2007, 09:29:42 AM » |
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You are going to be thirsty for a long time.
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« Reply #88 on: February 14, 2007, 09:53:23 AM » |
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I am going out on a limb here and saying that isn't exactly it.
Please allow me to speculate:
1) Rousseau's ship crashes on the island due to an incident with the Swan.
2) They discover the transmitter that was transmitting the numbers.
3) The crew becomes "infected."
4) Rousseau kills them all because she is afraid they will infect the baby.
5) She changes the message on the transmitter to imply it was the monster on the island and not her that killed her crew.
6) Ben "rescues" Rousseau and tells her he has a cure.
7) Rousseau has Alex.
8 ) Ben takes Alex, and they attempt to condition Rousseau.
9) The conditioning doesn't work, but drives her crazy.
10) They dump her off on the other side of the island.
11) She is too crazy to leave her part of the island and can't find the Staff station because it is hidden.
12) She goes more crazy as the "years" go on.
this sounds great, but i don't think ben (as he is now) and danielle have ever met. let me explain, IF they have met, i think ben was in disguise or looked a lot different. otherwise she would have recognized him "in the net". i still think she's just a crazy lady that they stole her baby and leave her alone. they got what they wanted out of her. |
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« Reply #89 on: February 14, 2007, 11:07:37 AM » |
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If he was part of Danielles team why would she hand him over to Sayid when he gets trapped in the net?
I agree he is a liar but I dont think he had anything to do with Danielle getting pregnant
Because he abandoned her, which is a decent theory, and she's getting retribution by calling him an other, and she probably didn't even know who he was. For the time being until I am proved wrong, and I won't be, I am right when I say that Ben is Alex's real father. TPTB have said that Ben was not her father, and almost stated thet Danielle was her mother (but that's still a "Mystery" for some folks). I'm going with the Producers on this one. Ben just adopted her. Also, we know that Danielle had the capability to kill her entire team. Remember what she did to Sayid? She pulled out the firing pin in Sayid's gun and was about to shoot him. She said that's what her husband said too. Nope, Ben is NOT her father. |
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