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Question: What will Jack do regarding the operation on Ben?
Operate willingly on Ben - 18 (50%)
Operate unwillingly on Ben - 6 (16.7%)
Trust Juliet and do a false operation on Ben - 1 (2.8%)
Do nothing and let Ben die - 1 (2.8%)
Find some other solution - 10 (27.8%)
Total Voters: 30

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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2006, 05:24:42 AM »

I don't see Jack violating the Hippocratic Oath in operating on Ben. 

I agree...I don't think Jack would harm anyone in Dr. mode...
Just a thought is if they are seeing if they can still break Jack and make him think what choice to make, torturing him a bit...Ben already said he's a better conman, and it will be a huge climax and be halted just before the operation starts cuz it's a big lie....and turns out to be Jack's XRay...mwahahaha...just had to throw that in there =)
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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2006, 09:42:50 AM »

I don't see Jack violating the Hippocratic Oath in operating on Ben. 

I agree...I don't think Jack would harm anyone in Dr. mode...
Just a thought is if they are seeing if they can still break Jack and make him think what choice to make, torturing him a bit...Ben already said he's a better conman, and it will be a huge climax and be halted just before the operation starts cuz it's a big lie....and turns out to be Jack's XRay...mwahahaha...just had to throw that in there =)

That would be a surprise ending
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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2006, 11:25:44 AM »

is the hippocratic oath the oath hippo politicians take? i didnt know jack was a hippo... how curious..
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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2006, 03:22:38 PM »

Ok guys, here are the results from last week's poll... so obviously Jack is doing the operation on Ben, but we still don't know why/how/what the outcome of it will be... thus I'm keeping the voting open until we finally find out what happens to Ben next year.

Question: What will Jack do regarding the operation on Ben?

Operate willingly on Ben  18 (54.5%)
Operate unwillingly on Ben  5 (15.2%)
Trust Juliet and do a false operation on Ben  1 (3%)
Do nothing and let Ben die  1 (3%)
Find some other solution  8 (24.2%)

Total Voters: 33
 
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2006, 05:56:37 PM »

is the hippocratic oath the oath hippo politicians take? i didnt know jack was a hippo... how curious..
I don't know if you're trying to be funny or just plain ignorant.  What do politicians have to do with any of this? 

Modern Hippocratic Oath:
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I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

Written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, and used in many medical schools today.


Classical Hippocratic Oath
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I swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepius and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfil according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant:

To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art - if they desire to learn it - without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken an oath according to the medical law, but no one else.

I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.

I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.

I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.

Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.

What I may see or hear in the course of the treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep to myself, holding such things shameful to be spoken about.

If I fulfil this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.

Translation from the Greek by Ludwig Edelstein. From The Hippocratic Oath: Text, Translation, and Interpretation, by Ludwig Edelstein. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins Press, 1943.

Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/doctors
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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2006, 04:48:33 AM »

thank you so much for overreacting so intently to a flippant comment.. made my day, hehe.. i typed and then forgot straight away.. explanation about the politian comment->  democrat + hippo = hippocrat
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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2006, 11:58:03 AM »

someone else said that sarcasm has a 98% failure rate in posts.  lol
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2006, 12:00:39 PM »

this one is going down in the history books tho.. seriously! i can believe how much of an overreaction it is..

i dont know whether to be offended that someone things i am that daft.. i havent been spoken to so rudely in quite a while..
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2006, 12:26:03 PM »

It was obviousely a joke. I new that when you wrote it. San diego Johnny is pretty intense
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2006, 12:35:46 PM »

yeah intense is definately the word..
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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2006, 04:13:55 PM »

Passionate is another word.  Smiley  Thanks for the explanation.   Grin Roll Eyes  I'm guffawing inside, really. 
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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2006, 09:12:24 AM »

I can live with passionate as your descriptor. Grin
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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2006, 04:01:02 AM »

Clearly, only a newbie would post something like "that's the most offensive post..."

*snicker.

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« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2006, 06:46:45 AM »

**SARCASM ALERT!!! As a fellow newbie I too found that comment to be very offensive **SARCASM ALERT!!!! Grin

I voted he unwilling saves Ben mainly because Kate will tell Jack that they or on a separate island and he'll be left with no choice.  Simple and boring I know but hey **SARCASM ALERT!!! that's what Lost's all about **SARCASM ALERT!!!


my posts are officially 100% sarcasm free Tongue
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« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2006, 12:00:46 PM »

LOL  trust me on this Dave
there are many many more offensive posts out there Wink Wink

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