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« on: November 02, 2006, 12:18:34 AM » |
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I think what we have to take from tonight's epi regarding Jack's decision to operate on Ben deals most with who to trust and why... Thus, Jack's got a major decision to make that could potentially change a lot of things on the island. What do you think he will do and why?
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2006, 12:50:11 AM » |
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I posted this in another forum but I’ll reiterate it here: if i were Jack i couldn't trust either Ben or Juliet. Neither one has ever given our losties any reason to trust them. So Juliet brings Jack a couple of hot meals and bats her eyes and now Jack is suppose to raise his flag on her side of the island? i don't buy it...these people are too good at character manipulation to all-of-a-sudden be on the up & up now that they each need Jack to be their savior.
i just can't shake the feeling that Jack is gettin' played by both teams! As for what he’ll do in regards to Ben’s surgery? Jack is still Jack regardless of his trust issues. It is his very nature to need to “save” someone. The question becomes who will he feel is in more need of saving - a man whose very life hangs in the balance, or the damsel in distress trying to free herself from a tyrannical leader? Jack is a brilliant doctor, but outside of that he sees himself as a failure (his marriage, the relationship with his father). I think he sticks with what he knows. I vote he operates. (find another way to save the damsel)
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2006, 01:22:25 AM » |
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I said "another solution" because ... well, just because. I'm not entirely convinced that it really is Ben's x-rays.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2006, 01:27:08 AM » |
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i think he will operate willingly i see the real wuestion as will he try very hard to save ben if things go wrong not if he will mess up the operation on purpose i dont believe he can do that
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2006, 01:39:37 PM » |
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How many times have we seen Jack try to save someone that dies? He won't let Ben die if he can help it, and he won't kill Ben in an operating room.
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2006, 02:18:03 PM » |
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i think he will operate unwillingly. i don't think he can say no, and his conscience be okay with it. does that make sense? jack is not the kind of person to turn down someone who needs his help, even if he doesn't like them. i also don't think he will intentionally kill ben during surgery. same thing with the whole conscience thing.
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2006, 06:49:07 PM » |
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I voted for "other" because....
Are we for certain that we can trust Juliet? I'm really struggling with it. Those crazy Others are so manipulating and seem to know just ow to work with people to get exactly what they want. So, was the false video all a part of the original plan that Ben told Jack had been foiled? We heard that Jack was "playing" Juliet and so I'm wondering if he is going along with all of this just to turn on them anyway. jack doesn't seem like the type to just all of the sudden trust people and be persuaded so quickly. At this point, I can't buy into him trying to save Ben - willingly or unwillingly...
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2006, 01:49:18 AM » |
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I don't see Jack violating the Hippocratic Oath in operating on Ben.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2006, 01:55:11 AM » |
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I don't see Jack violating the Hippocratic Oath in operating on Ben.
Totally agree, it goes against everything he believe in as a doctor and what that means to him, he took an oath to do no harm... he will operate on whoever needs an operation, whether it's Ben or someone else... I think Jack would draw the line if they asked him to harvest organs from live donors... that would be unethical and Jack would say no to anything unethical...
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2006, 01:58:59 AM » |
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It seems too ingrained in Jack's nature to need to save Ben's life rather than kill him. I don't think Jack is the type to pass judgment on Ben based on what Juliet said in her video. He won't play God. I voted that he'll operate willingly on Ben, but I also think that he will find another solution, because Juliet is earning his trust, & he will want to "save" her, too.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2006, 08:31:36 AM » |
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If Jack murders Ben under the knife, it may very well make things worse. Ben was keeping Pickett from killing Sawyer as retaliation for the death of Colleen at the hands of Sun. Ben, despite his evil demeanor and constant lying, may very well be the stabilizing influence that has kept the Others on task all this time.
We know that Ben will indeed go under the knife in the forthcoming cliffhanger (preview shows Ben prepped for surgery?) and Sawyer might be killed by Pickett.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2006, 08:40:27 AM » |
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Agree Jack is all about saving others, particularly when his last patient died. He operates willingly. Will Ben survive? Not sure, but think so.
Besides, if a power change did occur... what happens then? The bereved husband beats Sawyer to death? Losties are released? Just Jack? Jack goes home? None of these seem plausable.
Jack operates and Ben survives.
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2006, 09:35:05 AM » |
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I can't see Ben ever having a flashback, since all of the flashbacks take place off the island, so I'm not sure he will remain a lead character.
However, this could be a case where they write Ben off, only to bring him back in season 4/5 in a surprise.
Also - if the Island made Locke walk and put Rose into remission, why doesn't Ben just go and stay on the Island?
Even if Jack gets the tumor, Juliet will still be after him.
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2006, 12:11:11 PM » |
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Sawyer might be killed by Pickett.
Noooo! Don't say it! I can't handle another lostie death after Eko 
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2006, 03:15:16 PM » |
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why doesn't Ben just go and stay on the Island?
The Others are afraid of the Lostie island because of the many dangers there. Smoke, Polars, 'nothers, Rousseau, Losties, Patchy, being spotted, etc. Then again, when we first met Ben, he WAS on the Lostie island and I don't think he wanted to be caught. He may have just seen his X-rays and was braving the risks of L Island in hopes that it would help cure him.
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