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Of Mice and Men
« on: October 26, 2006, 05:50:50 PM »
Just an food for thought for those of you who haven't read the book "Of Mice and Men" by John Steinbeck (I know, I'm such a nerd)... there is a character named Crooks who coincidentally is called so because of his crooked spine... Now Benry started going off on some weird tangent towards the end of the episode when he was talking to Sawyer and says something like, "A guy goes nuts if he ain't got nobody.... blah blah blah, I tell ya a guy gets too lonely and he gets sick." <---- This line is actually a quote from Crooks in the book. Crooks = Benry?

Is this relevant or just a coinkidink put into play by TPTB? I honestly don't know, but there seems to me to be a connection or reason, given the mention of the novel and the title of the epi, for Ben saying that and why he needs Jack to change his perspective. (Spinal surgery anyone? Any back/spine specialists around?)

Thus, IMHO, I think that the x-rays showing the tumor on the L4 vertabrae could possibly belong to Benry. Not to mention Jack says something about it to Ben in the preview for next week. We'll find out sooner or later.

(Anyway, the line Benry says actually has more to do with individualism, isolation, and lost hope... which I'll start a thread about later when I have time... but hopefully this helps.)


I put this here because I wanted to discuss the book, and this was a good lead-in, uofapiglet.

I also wanted to say that I really liked the reference in Episode 03x04 when they were hiking up to the cliff.  I like that Sawyer referred to himself as "George."  However, it doesn't exactly follow the book because otherwise, Sawyer would be dead.

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Re: Of Mice and Men
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2006, 06:54:43 PM »
I think Sawyer called Ben "George" because he was alluding to that same character in the book where Ben actually fits the physical description/profile. Sawyer call him that because he thinks that Ben=George and he's "Lennie", the gentle giant (Sawyer=Lennie)that gets put out of his misery because he is a burden on George and the rest of the group. In a little twist, Ben says the same lines verbatim that the character Crooks says instead, somehow symbollizing the voice of reason, and tries to enlighten Sawyer that there's no point trying to escape, thus shattering his dreams.

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Re: Of Mice and Men
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2006, 07:16:29 PM »
Coincidentally, I also forgot to add that John Steinbeck, the writer of "of Mice and Men", also wrote another novel call "The Pearl"... unfortunately, I have no idea what it's about... I'll have to look it up later...

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Re: Of Mice and Men
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2006, 07:34:28 AM »
I was totally correct on this one... I knew that it had to be Ben with a tumor and I'm glad that the writers stuck to the obvious without giving us a new obscure mystery concerning who had the tumor. Now we'll just have to wait and see if Ben survives the surgery.

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Re: Of Mice and Men
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2006, 03:46:05 AM »
Yeah, you called it.  And what I said above makes no sense about George.  You know?  He was referring to Ben because Ben is George.