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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2006, 10:56:27 AM »
maybe the true goal is domestication.. with their eventual application as humungous gaurd dogs

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2006, 12:40:02 PM »
Nice one! I went to comment but it wouldn't let me...?

yeah i stopped going there.. the site is pretty unstable.. keeps crashing, my theories' ratings got wiped along with a hundred others.. and there you go, here i am

Well, I'm glad in a way as we get the benefit of your opinions and not them!

heres the other two (remaining) theories that are on that site if youre interested..
http://www.lost-theories.com/theories/2006/oct/03/magnet-and-valenzetti-and-othe/
http://www.lost-theories.com/theories/2006/sep/15/danielle-and-disease/

alot of its probably been rehashed here much too often but it still makes for an interesting read.. (i think)


GREAT THEORIES!!

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #47 on: October 11, 2006, 12:42:09 PM »
Nice one! I went to comment but it wouldn't let me...?

yeah i stopped going there.. the site is pretty unstable.. keeps crashing, my theories' ratings got wiped along with a hundred others.. and there you go, here i am

Well, I'm glad in a way as we get the benefit of your opinions and not them!

heres the other two (remaining) theories that are on that site if youre interested..
http://www.lost-theories.com/theories/2006/oct/03/magnet-and-valenzetti-and-othe/
http://www.lost-theories.com/theories/2006/sep/15/danielle-and-disease/

alot of its probably been rehashed here much too often but it still makes for an interesting read.. (i think)


GREAT THEORIES!!

im glad i shared em now.. ive been getting great feedback.. hopefully i will have the chance to write some in the upcoming ep sections..

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2006, 04:12:35 PM »
to what purpose.... are polar bears pack animals?? i dont think so.. maybe that is what is meant by de-terratorialisation.. teaching them to relax and get along..
As far as I know, Polar bears are extraordinarily solitary animals. Putting two together would normally cause huge fights. However, if they had to work together to get their food...

Good thoughts here!

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2006, 01:07:08 AM »
don't they keep polar bears togethers in zoos

you are right about them being solitary  in the wild
but like any bear they will be around each other if the food supply allows it ( trash dumps campgrounds salmon runs etc )

but they don't work together to achieve goals ( that i know of anyway ) so if they had to do so to get the food they could smell ( it has been shown they can smell what is inside a can by the minute traces left from the canning process)
that would be a huge step i think
to what ends  i think we will need a Dharma backstory  to say for sure

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2006, 10:15:45 PM »
I agree... I don't know how they got the bears to cooperate, but I suppose they could train them...

HOWEVER, Tom said that it took the bears 2 hours to figure it out, which suggests without outside help.

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2006, 10:29:32 PM »
what good would the conditioning training be if they had outside help

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2006, 10:47:22 PM »
good point... I don't know how it only took them two hours...

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2006, 10:45:30 AM »
it wasnt their first test... it was one in a series..

that would explain their adaptability.. and their familiarity with buttons/switches and icons..

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #54 on: October 16, 2006, 05:05:51 PM »
Maybe they were already taught to recognise knives and forks at that stage then?

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2006, 07:23:59 PM »
Probably they already knew most of those switches and also the warning sound. Also, they probably knew the fanfare meant they succeeded.

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2006, 07:56:41 PM »
the test would be fatally difficult if it was the first one, used on initiate bears..

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« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2006, 11:10:20 PM »
I don't think fatally... But they would definately take much longer than two hours.

If you mean the shock, it wasn't powerful enough to hurt the bears as much as it did Sawyer.

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2006, 05:54:14 AM »
i would say it would be fatal actually.. buttons? if you put a polar bear in a room and closed the door without locking it.. it would die.. it wouldnt be able to figure out to turn the knob...

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Re: Clever Bears (?) and their cages...
« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2006, 06:58:24 PM »
Are you sure about that? I think a bear would be able to figure it out... Cats and dogs can.