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Quote from: Holland34 on May 08, 2010, 03:07:28 AMQuote from: CaseyMac on May 07, 2010, 08:48:19 PMQuote from: BobBX542 on May 07, 2010, 10:26:13 AMQuote from: CaseyMac on May 06, 2010, 08:08:08 PMI have a problem calling any of the characters "pointless" or "useless". It's like in baseball, if the ball isn't hit into left field, does that mean the left fielder is useless? No. Sometimes characters are just there to support other characters. Not everyone can be the protagonist.Yes, that is exactly what it means. His skill and talent were not used, so therefore, he was without use, or "Usless" as the kids say. First, there is a difference between "unused" and "useless". I think you are getting into a very slippery slope in saying which characters have been pointless. Is Vincent pointless? Is Seth Norris pointless? Is Goodwin pointless? Is Eko pointless? I think it's awfully hard to draw a definitive line, so I choose not to draw a line at all. If you were in the show, you had a role, no matter how minor. It's like saying a particular brush stroke in Da Vinci's Starry Night is pointless. Each brush stroke is a part of the masterpiece.Second, I actually totally agree with you that Frank is not only merely dead, but really most sincerely dead. There is no way he is going to pull a Mikhail and pop out of nowhere to save the day. However, it is curious then that they would have the plane land safely last season, and then not use it this whole time.Are you trying to say that he's not just mostly dead? Because if he's only mostly dead, Miracle Max is our man to bring him back.And there you have it. Billy Crystal is going to be the big surprise mystery guest star, because the MIB is really Miracle Max.
Quote from: CaseyMac on May 07, 2010, 08:48:19 PMQuote from: BobBX542 on May 07, 2010, 10:26:13 AMQuote from: CaseyMac on May 06, 2010, 08:08:08 PMI have a problem calling any of the characters "pointless" or "useless". It's like in baseball, if the ball isn't hit into left field, does that mean the left fielder is useless? No. Sometimes characters are just there to support other characters. Not everyone can be the protagonist.Yes, that is exactly what it means. His skill and talent were not used, so therefore, he was without use, or "Usless" as the kids say. First, there is a difference between "unused" and "useless". I think you are getting into a very slippery slope in saying which characters have been pointless. Is Vincent pointless? Is Seth Norris pointless? Is Goodwin pointless? Is Eko pointless? I think it's awfully hard to draw a definitive line, so I choose not to draw a line at all. If you were in the show, you had a role, no matter how minor. It's like saying a particular brush stroke in Da Vinci's Starry Night is pointless. Each brush stroke is a part of the masterpiece.Second, I actually totally agree with you that Frank is not only merely dead, but really most sincerely dead. There is no way he is going to pull a Mikhail and pop out of nowhere to save the day. However, it is curious then that they would have the plane land safely last season, and then not use it this whole time.Are you trying to say that he's not just mostly dead? Because if he's only mostly dead, Miracle Max is our man to bring him back.
Quote from: BobBX542 on May 07, 2010, 10:26:13 AMQuote from: CaseyMac on May 06, 2010, 08:08:08 PMI have a problem calling any of the characters "pointless" or "useless". It's like in baseball, if the ball isn't hit into left field, does that mean the left fielder is useless? No. Sometimes characters are just there to support other characters. Not everyone can be the protagonist.Yes, that is exactly what it means. His skill and talent were not used, so therefore, he was without use, or "Usless" as the kids say. First, there is a difference between "unused" and "useless". I think you are getting into a very slippery slope in saying which characters have been pointless. Is Vincent pointless? Is Seth Norris pointless? Is Goodwin pointless? Is Eko pointless? I think it's awfully hard to draw a definitive line, so I choose not to draw a line at all. If you were in the show, you had a role, no matter how minor. It's like saying a particular brush stroke in Da Vinci's Starry Night is pointless. Each brush stroke is a part of the masterpiece.Second, I actually totally agree with you that Frank is not only merely dead, but really most sincerely dead. There is no way he is going to pull a Mikhail and pop out of nowhere to save the day. However, it is curious then that they would have the plane land safely last season, and then not use it this whole time.
Quote from: CaseyMac on May 06, 2010, 08:08:08 PMI have a problem calling any of the characters "pointless" or "useless". It's like in baseball, if the ball isn't hit into left field, does that mean the left fielder is useless? No. Sometimes characters are just there to support other characters. Not everyone can be the protagonist.Yes, that is exactly what it means. His skill and talent were not used, so therefore, he was without use, or "Usless" as the kids say.
I have a problem calling any of the characters "pointless" or "useless". It's like in baseball, if the ball isn't hit into left field, does that mean the left fielder is useless? No. Sometimes characters are just there to support other characters. Not everyone can be the protagonist.
Quote from: Madam P on May 08, 2010, 07:06:49 AMQuote from: Holland34 on May 08, 2010, 03:07:28 AMQuote from: CaseyMac on May 07, 2010, 08:48:19 PMQuote from: BobBX542 on May 07, 2010, 10:26:13 AMQuote from: CaseyMac on May 06, 2010, 08:08:08 PMI have a problem calling any of the characters "pointless" or "useless". It's like in baseball, if the ball isn't hit into left field, does that mean the left fielder is useless? No. Sometimes characters are just there to support other characters. Not everyone can be the protagonist.Yes, that is exactly what it means. His skill and talent were not used, so therefore, he was without use, or "Usless" as the kids say. First, there is a difference between "unused" and "useless". I think you are getting into a very slippery slope in saying which characters have been pointless. Is Vincent pointless? Is Seth Norris pointless? Is Goodwin pointless? Is Eko pointless? I think it's awfully hard to draw a definitive line, so I choose not to draw a line at all. If you were in the show, you had a role, no matter how minor. It's like saying a particular brush stroke in Da Vinci's Starry Night is pointless. Each brush stroke is a part of the masterpiece.Second, I actually totally agree with you that Frank is not only merely dead, but really most sincerely dead. There is no way he is going to pull a Mikhail and pop out of nowhere to save the day. However, it is curious then that they would have the plane land safely last season, and then not use it this whole time.Are you trying to say that he's not just mostly dead? Because if he's only mostly dead, Miracle Max is our man to bring him back.And there you have it. Billy Crystal is going to be the big surprise mystery guest star, because the MIB is really Miracle Max. Then perhaps Jacob's last name is Humperdink. So, Carol Kane will jump in, "Ever since Jacob Humperdink took his body, his confidence has been shatterd."MIB: "Why'd you say that name? You promised me you would never say that name!"Carol: "What, Humperdinck?"MIB: "Aahaahh!"Carol: "Humperdinck! Humperdinck! Humperdinck!"MIB: "I'm not listening!"
Then perhaps Jacob's last name is Humperdink. So, Carol Kane will jump in, "Ever since Jacob Humperdink took his body, his confidence has been shatterd."MIB: "Why'd you say that name? You promised me you would never say that name!"Carol: "What, Humperdinck?"MIB: "Aahaahh!"Carol: "Humperdinck! Humperdinck! Humperdinck!"MIB: "I'm not listening!"
Quote from: CaseyMac on May 07, 2010, 08:48:19 PMQuote from: BobBX542 on May 07, 2010, 10:26:13 AMQuote from: CaseyMac on May 06, 2010, 08:08:08 PMI have a problem calling any of the characters "pointless" or "useless". It's like in baseball, if the ball isn't hit into left field, does that mean the left fielder is useless? No. Sometimes characters are just there to support other characters. Not everyone can be the protagonist.Yes, that is exactly what it means. His skill and talent were not used, so therefore, he was without use, or "Usless" as the kids say. First, there is a difference between "unused" and "useless". I think you are getting into a very slippery slope in saying which characters have been pointless. Is Vincent pointless? Is Seth Norris pointless? Is Goodwin pointless? Is Eko pointless? I think it's awfully hard to draw a definitive line, so I choose not to draw a line at all. If you were in the show, you had a role, no matter how minor. It's like saying a particular brush stroke in Da Vinci's Starry Night is pointless. Each brush stroke is a part of the masterpiece.Second, I actually totally agree with you that Frank is not only merely dead, but really most sincerely dead. There is no way he is going to pull a Mikhail and pop out of nowhere to save the day. However, it is curious then that they would have the plane land safely last season, and then not use it this whole time.Really?? We're comparing LOST to Da Vinci now?? You want to talk about a slippery slope?? LOL Look I love the show as much as the next guy, but really?? Da Vinci??
I still say Lapidus isn't dead yet. "Entertainment Weekly" this week talks about the three deaths in this episode, and discusses Sayid, Sun, and Jin, but they don't mention Lapidus at all. Now maybe this is because they consider him to be a minor character, but they didn't say "three major deaths" they just said "three deaths." So I'm still clinging to my conclusion, illogical though it may be. I think Frank's got one more major thing to do before he can die -- he's gonna wash up ashore somewhere.
Quote from: Madam P on May 10, 2010, 02:30:18 PMI still say Lapidus isn't dead yet. "Entertainment Weekly" this week talks about the three deaths in this episode, and discusses Sayid, Sun, and Jin, but they don't mention Lapidus at all. Now maybe this is because they consider him to be a minor character, but they didn't say "three major deaths" they just said "three deaths." So I'm still clinging to my conclusion, illogical though it may be. I think Frank's got one more major thing to do before he can die -- he's gonna wash up ashore somewhere. I'm wracking my brains trying to remember who told me it was four deaths. I think it was my co-worker and she read it somewhere. Lostpeidia? Some spoiler site? But she had told me before last weeks ep, that four were going to die that night. So that's why I assumed it was Lapidus. But I thought the same thing about him, that it didn't look like he got that wracked up but somehow recovered and will wash ashore and pop up at a more crucial time. Like Han Solo at the Death Star!
Quote from: KoKoNut on May 10, 2010, 03:45:56 PMQuote from: Madam P on May 10, 2010, 02:30:18 PMI still say Lapidus isn't dead yet. "Entertainment Weekly" this week talks about the three deaths in this episode, and discusses Sayid, Sun, and Jin, but they don't mention Lapidus at all. Now maybe this is because they consider him to be a minor character, but they didn't say "three major deaths" they just said "three deaths." So I'm still clinging to my conclusion, illogical though it may be. I think Frank's got one more major thing to do before he can die -- he's gonna wash up ashore somewhere. I'm wracking my brains trying to remember who told me it was four deaths. I think it was my co-worker and she read it somewhere. Lostpeidia? Some spoiler site? But she had told me before last weeks ep, that four were going to die that night. So that's why I assumed it was Lapidus. But I thought the same thing about him, that it didn't look like he got that wracked up but somehow recovered and will wash ashore and pop up at a more crucial time. Like Han Solo at the Death Star! I don't want to burst any bubbles, but the Darlton said on the Lost Podcast that Frank would be talked about by the survivors. It was asked of them if that since only Jin and Sun were asked about on the beach, that maybe that meant Frank had escaped. Darlton seemed to indicated they wanted the mood to focus on just Jin and Sun, but the next episode would address Frank too. It may mean it's ambiguous if he got out, or it may mean they say he is dead. I just have a real hard time believing Frank survived the door, let alone the sinking sub.