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Re: Black Rock
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2010, 12:08:02 AM »
Also, I though Australians were "Prisoners of His/Her Majesty" (hence the derogatory term "pohmmies")

I believe it was P.O.M.E - Prisoner of Mother England

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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2010, 12:21:36 AM »
Thanks for the correction...only knew the reference from the Monty Python "Philosopher Drinking Song" which, coincidentally enough, is how I learned the name...

"David Hume could outconsume..."

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Re: Black Rock
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2010, 12:24:40 AM »
From Lostpedia

The subtitle at the beginning of Richard's flashback places the events in 1867, yet the final voyage of the Black Rock was previously stated to have occurred on 22 March 1845 (4x05).
The date may have given as 1867 to address another continuity error. The Black Rock had crates of dynamite. Alfred Nobel didn't patent dynamite until 1867.

So that would put Richards age around 150 to 170 years old

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Re: Black Rock
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2010, 01:13:51 AM »
Also, I noticed that it is unlikely the ship we saw in the S5 finale was the Black Rock.
The original ship Magnus Hanso was one?

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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2010, 11:23:59 AM »
The Black Rock obviously can not have been the ship in S5.
Mid-day =/= Night
Sunny and peaceful =/= Stormy...and hurricany xD

It becomes fairly obvious that Jacob has brought not only one ship or vessel to the island so the ship in S05 might not even matter for all we know.

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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2010, 11:32:36 AM »
Well it must have been quite a voyage.  If the ship picked up Richard in the Canary Islands (which are in the Atlantic just off the northwest coast of Africa) they made a hell of a trip around the horn of Africa and out into the Pacific
That's assuming that the Island has been in the Pacific the whole time - I don't think we can guarantee that.

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Re: Black Rock
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2010, 11:19:38 AM »
Well it must have been quite a voyage.  If the ship picked up Richard in the Canary Islands (which are in the Atlantic just off the northwest coast of Africa) they made a hell of a trip around the horn of Africa and out into the Pacific

I'm with you, if the black Rock was going to America, it was very ''LOST''


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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2010, 01:52:49 PM »
Well it must have been quite a voyage.  If the ship picked up Richard in the Canary Islands (which are in the Atlantic just off the northwest coast of Africa) they made a hell of a trip around the horn of Africa and out into the Pacific

I'm with you, if the black Rock was going to America, it was very ''LOST''



I think you're misreading the intent of this quote.  He was saying that if they were headed to Australia, they are way off.

Think about it: from Europe to the Canary Islands to the New World is a straightforward journey across a single ocean.  It would be a trip to Australia that would take them around the Horn of Africa.

Besides, the first mate specifically stated that the New World was the destination, and nobody pays for a condemned man just to take him from the gallows to a penal colony.

They were headed to America to mine.

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Re: Black Rock
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2010, 02:11:27 PM »
Bear in mind, the island moves. It could have been in the Atlantic at the time.

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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2010, 02:15:21 PM »
It has been showen the Black Rock sailed from England in 1845 and disappeared. In this EP, Richard rides up to his house and the caption says ".........1867. This is a difference of 22 years! Is this a ERROR?
Could it be that the Black Rock has been acting like the DHARMA sub? Could it in fact have not disappeared, but was sailing around the world bringing people to the island just like the DHarma sun.
This would explain the difference from the first time we saw the ship when Jacob and MIB were sitting on the beach. What do you all think?

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Re: Black Rock
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2010, 03:41:33 PM »
I took it that Jacob saw the ship and then was able to conjure up a storm to bring the ship in.  This is pretty much what the producers said in the recent podcast, I wish I had a link!  I don't think that they were meant to be taken as two different ships, I think we were meant to ascertain that Jacob uses his abilities to draw people to the island.
 It reminds me of a time long ago when there was all the buzz of DHARMA controlling the weather, like when Locke predicts the rainfalls. 

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Re: Black Rock
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2010, 02:29:22 PM »
It has been showen the Black Rock sailed from England in 1845 and disappeared. In this EP, Richard rides up to his house and the caption says ".........1867. This is a difference of 22 years! Is this a ERROR?

This was the error (1845) originally.  Then it was pointed out that dynamite wasn't invented until the 1860's, so they course corrected.

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Re: Black Rock
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2010, 03:00:00 PM »
Well it must have been quite a voyage.  If the ship picked up Richard in the Canary Islands (which are in the Atlantic just off the northwest coast of Africa) they made a hell of a trip around the horn of Africa and out into the Pacific

unless the island was elsewhere back then since we know it moves.

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Re: Black Rock
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2010, 08:23:09 PM »
Is it possible that there could have been several trips to the island too...I also took the voyage to Australia to be a ruse....

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Re: Black Rock
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2010, 02:20:43 PM »
Well it must have been quite a voyage.  If the ship picked up Richard in the Canary Islands (which are in the Atlantic just off the northwest coast of Africa) they made a hell of a trip around the horn of Africa and out into the Pacific

I'm with you, if the black Rock was going to America, it was very ''LOST''


Just like their flight 815 was 3 hours off course or something around that number.  That was given by the pilot in the... well the pilot :)