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Offline opgelost

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2010, 04:37:11 PM »
I thought they just died in the planecrash.

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2010, 04:50:09 PM »
ok, the bodies had no gunshot wounds and were dragged and piled up.
That's all we know.
If Widmore's goons did it, why would they just shoot them?
If MIB did it, maybe they witnessed something that MIB wanted to keep secret?
We'll get an answer soon.

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2010, 05:24:23 PM »
There's a big part of me that wants to say "not Widmore or his people."  If that is true, does that only leave MiB?  It didn't seem like they had a bunch of bullet holes in them (or any blood whatsoever).
I think NEITHER.
There are lots of human footprints where the bodies were dragged.
ROTTING bodies, that must have take a lot more time to be that way than Widmore is on Hidra Island.
I don't really know if there is not gunshot wounds, but one thing they HAVEN'T: Blunt and trauma marks Smokey always leave on his victims.

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2010, 05:27:38 PM »
When Smokey did his big panover at the beginning of the episode a couple of weeks ago, didn't they show him fly over Hydra island and over the water?

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2010, 05:29:59 PM »
When Smokey did his big panover at the beginning of the episode a couple of weeks ago, didn't they show him fly over Hydra island and over the water?


I couldn't remember, so I asked my friend and she confirms that yes, Smokey did pan over Hydra. So there ya go.

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2010, 09:16:16 PM »
Smokey killed them!

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2010, 09:06:25 AM »
So why did MIB send Sawyer over there for recon if he knew they were all dead. And he definitely did not know Widmore was there because when he sends Sawyer over there he specifically mentions the Ajira passengers wanting to do them harm. Also, when Sawyer comes back and tells him there's a guy over there by the name of Widmore, MIB looks really surprised and goes "Charles Widmore?". SO, I don't think Smokey killed them personally. But, you never know.

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2010, 12:54:23 PM »
So why did MIB send Sawyer over there for recon if he knew they were all dead. And he definitely did not know Widmore was there because when he sends Sawyer over there he specifically mentions the Ajira passengers wanting to do them harm. Also, when Sawyer comes back and tells him there's a guy over there by the name of Widmore, MIB looks really surprised and goes "Charles Widmore?". SO, I don't think Smokey killed them personally. But, you never know.

Smokey Lies! HE LIES!!!!!!! IT"S ALL LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is EEEEVILLLLLLL!!!!!!

Then again, maybe it was salmonella from the plane food.

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2010, 02:00:11 PM »
So why did MIB send Sawyer over there for recon if he knew they were all dead. And he definitely did not know Widmore was there because when he sends Sawyer over there he specifically mentions the Ajira passengers wanting to do them harm. Also, when Sawyer comes back and tells him there's a guy over there by the name of Widmore, MIB looks really surprised and goes "Charles Widmore?". SO, I don't think Smokey killed them personally. But, you never know.

Sawyer said you didn't really send me over there to find passengers of that plane, did you? MIB answers no.
I don't think the name Widmore surprised him. I think MIB tried to send Ben and later send Sawyer, because
Widmore cannot kill them, like MIB can't.

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2010, 04:34:29 PM »
i dont really remember but didn't locke, prior to jacob dying, mention to ben about having to return to hydra island to take care of the other survivors of the crash? or was he simply referring to ilana's old team?

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2010, 05:12:16 PM »
I think they died of natural causes, if you can call what happened to Minkowski natural.  :)

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2010, 08:12:19 PM »
So why did MIB send Sawyer over there for recon if he knew they were all dead. And he definitely did not know Widmore was there because when he sends Sawyer over there he specifically mentions the Ajira passengers wanting to do them harm. Also, when Sawyer comes back and tells him there's a guy over there by the name of Widmore, MIB looks really surprised and goes "Charles Widmore?". SO, I don't think Smokey killed them personally. But, you never know.

Smokey Lies! HE LIES!!!!!!! IT"S ALL LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is EEEEVILLLLLLL!!!!!!

Then again, maybe it was salmonella from the plane food.

It was a re-con.... he was conned by Locke

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Re: Who killed the folks on the Hydra island?
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2010, 10:17:12 PM »
This is from the incident:
RICHARD: I'm this way because of Jacob. And if I had to guess, he's the reason you're not in that coffin anymore.

LOCKE: I agree completely, Richard. That's why I'm doing this. So I can thank him. [Locke picks up his backpack, placing the canteen inside it.] Once I've done that, we're gonna need to deal with the rest of the passengers from the Ajira flight that brought me here.

RICHARD: What do you mean, 'deal with them'?

LOCKE: You know what I mean.

[Richard looks at Locke, shocked.]

LOCKE: [to everyone] Let's go!

[Locke then walks off, with Richard looking after him.]

I think that Richard's question about "dealing with them" was answered when we saw the bodies on Hydra Island.  Smokie did it!