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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2010, 01:17:29 PM »
Okay, um, weird question, but is it possible that the reason Sawyer could see the kid is because he was actually there?? I know Richard didn't see him, but maybe that's because he can vanish like the Others.

If this is the case, and he is really there...then who is the boy? I just assumed he was Jacob's spirit form or ghost or whatever. 
At first I thought it was one of the kids from the plane.

That is a question for a whole different thread. LOL

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2010, 01:20:45 PM »
Okay, um, weird question, but is it possible that the reason Sawyer could see the kid is because he was actually there?? I know Richard didn't see him, but maybe that's because he can vanish like the Others.

If this is the case, and he is really there...then who is the boy? I just assumed he was Jacob's spirit form or ghost or whatever. 
At first I thought it was one of the kids from the plane.

That is a question for a whole different thread. LOL
You're right!  I see that thread already has theories swirling about. But I believe if we really knew who the boy actually was, then MAYBE...just maybe...we'd know why only certain people can see him. 

But then, maybe it IS Jacob, and he can make himself seen to whomever he wishes.

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2010, 01:24:04 PM »
God this show is frustrating at times.

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2010, 04:13:36 PM »
MiB is going to try to kill him but I'm willing to bet that MiB is bound to the same rules as were dictated before, which is why our mystery child said "you can't kill him." The "him" referring, not to Jacob, but to Sawyer.

I think they went out of the way to show us fLocke did not want Sawyer to die (at least yet), with the whole falling off the latter on they way down stuff. He could have just let him fall, but helped him out. -- Somehow I think fLocke see's Sayer as his best hope to get off the island/go home.


I think M.I.B.'s going to test all the candidates until he finds the right one. I guess all the wrong ones will die, like Locke.

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2010, 06:27:45 PM »
wonder if hurley would be able to see the boy?  he has had a lot of encounters with 'not quite alive' people too.

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2010, 09:51:42 PM »
wonder if hurley would be able to see the boy?  he has had a lot of encounters with 'not quite alive' people too.

Unless the boy is actually alive and real, which is why Sawyer could see him and why Unlocke actually chased after him...

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2010, 02:50:01 PM »
wonder if hurley would be able to see the boy?  he has had a lot of encounters with 'not quite alive' people too.

Unless the boy is actually alive and real, which is why Sawyer could see him and why Unlocke actually chased after him...

But if he's actually alive and real, I wonder why Richard didn't see him?

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2010, 02:53:10 PM »
Maybe he can disapear like the others seem to be able to do. Or, he ran off before Richard turned his head. Richard was looking at Locke, and then Locke turned to look at the kid. when Richard turned his head, he was gone.

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2010, 02:54:19 PM »
Maybe he can disapear like the others seem to be able to do. Or, he ran off before Richard turned his head. Richard was looking at Locke, and then Locke turned to look at the kid. when Richard turned his head, he was gone.

Freakin' kid.

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2010, 01:23:20 AM »
Well, the Island has shown plenty of people visions of someone from their past in order to give them a message.

But, twice now, Sawyer has been able to see a vision meant for someone else.  Sawyer also saw Kate's horse, and now Sawyer saw MIB's boy.

Has anybody else but Sawyer been able to see a vision meant for someone else?

I think someone mentioned that both Shannon and Sayid saw Walt -- can't remember; was that simultaenous or separate?

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2010, 02:55:58 AM »
I think someone mentioned that both Shannon and Sayid saw Walt -- can't remember; was that simultaenous or separate?
Wet Backwards Ghost Walt appeared to both at the same time. That was when we noticed that it was a real apparition, not a mind trick over people.
What stays in the gray area is Dave. Looks like only Hurley could see him, what means Dave might be a ghost of a real person that died in Hurley's accident.

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2010, 03:00:34 AM »
I thought that "Kate's Horse" was actually from Mikhail's farm.

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2010, 03:46:41 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised if it's Aaron as the kid somehow transmitting himself from another time and place.  I always assumed taller ghost Walt was the smoke monster or something, but maybe it really was Walt from the future.  It wouldn't make sense if it were MIB since as far as we've seen, taking the forms of dead people seems to be key for him.  Jacob could very well be Aaron grown up with the crazy time traveling stuff.  With everything this season, I'm not going to worry too much about analyzing it.  No sense driving myself crazy over something that could very well be answered next week.

They keep saying Aaron is important to the story.  I just hope it's not something lame like he's a vessel for Jacob or something like that.  Reminds me of the disappointing Ghostbusters 2 and Vigo.

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2010, 12:03:21 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised if it's Aaron as the kid somehow transmitting himself from another time and place.  I always assumed taller ghost Walt was the smoke monster or something, but maybe it really was Walt from the future.  It wouldn't make sense if it were MIB since as far as we've seen, taking the forms of dead people seems to be key for him.  Jacob could very well be Aaron grown up with the crazy time traveling stuff.  With everything this season, I'm not going to worry too much about analyzing it.  No sense driving myself crazy over something that could very well be answered next week.

They keep saying Aaron is important to the story.  I just hope it's not something lame like he's a vessel for Jacob or something like that.  Reminds me of the disappointing Ghostbusters 2 and Vigo.
But MiB has only taken the forms of people who died off-island and whose bodies were brought to the island: Christian, Yemi, and Locke (that we know of). We haven't seen him as Eko, Nikki, Shannon, Frogurt, etc.... it's possible that he was Boone in Locke's sweat-lodge-vision, but since Locke also saw himself at an airport, I'm thinking it was just a spiritual metaphor and not an MiB-induced illusion. Taller Ghost Walt could be the exception: if Locke died on-island, MiB wouldn't be able to take his form, so he could have appeared as Walt to motivate Locke out of the pit... so he can die off-island. And... I don't know what this means.  :-[

And I think that everyone Jacob touched is a vessel! (Except I keep using the word 'horcrux', lol). I don't think Aaron would be one, though.

Maybe the boy appeared to both MiB and Sawyer because he wanted Sawyer to see him, too. He first appeared to MiB to get his attention. He appears to both of them to show Sawyer that something weird is going on (or something similar? Like the kid just gave up a clue to this big game they're playing?). MiB is pissed that Sawyer sees the kid, and runs after him, allowing the kid to give him the message alone.  ???

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Re: Why Sawyer could see the boy
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2010, 07:46:51 AM »
But MiB has only taken the forms of people who died off-island and whose bodies were brought to the island: Christian, Yemi, and Locke (that we know of). We haven't seen him as Eko, Nikki, Shannon, Frogurt, etc....
Well, how Alex fits that? She died on island. Same with the Nigerian Thugs, whose bodies never came to island, yet Smokey used them to attack Eko.
Not to mention the Black Horse, that wasn't even a person.
Smokey shape-shifting is WAY more loose than that.