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Author Topic: Why do we know Jacob's name but not MIB's name?  (Read 970 times)
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« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2010, 04:14:21 PM »

@wild Lil---I think the point that opgelost is trying to make is that Ilana and Richard should know each other, regardless of his name.



Just because  you follow the same leader it doesn't mean you know the other people.  The others have a vast worldwide network as we see so it wasn't surprising from my view

but the point is, she knew where the cabin was so she must have on the island before
how could she have been on the island and not know Richard

Maybe Richard was off island when she was there.   I get the p oint but my point is also that just because you work in the same budiling doesn't mean you know other people.   And we have no proof she was there before she may have had a mapwho knows.  I know she knows her way around but you get my point too.

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« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2010, 04:20:46 PM »

I thought it was Samuel.  Wasn't that how he was cast?

Well, when it first aired, IMDB had him as "Man 2", now it has him listed as "Man in Black" played by Titus Welliver
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1399779/fullcredits#cast

Ergo that is why I refer to him as MN2
@wild Lil---I think the point that opgelost is trying to make is that Ilana and Richard should know each other, regardless of his name.



Just because  you follow the same leader it doesn't mean you know the other people.  The others have a vast worldwide network as we see so it wasn't surprising from my view

Right, and I agree with that, but seeing as she knows the current location of Jacob's cabin, she must have been there semi recently, and if travel to and from the island is a closely guarded secret (Richard's words, not mine), then he should know her. Keep in mind, I'm only really taking this side of the arguement, because I have no reasonable explanation myself.

Well not that closley guarded if they can tranport from the pods and then Jacob can leave the island whenver he wants.  I mean whatever perspective Richard was saying that was to protect the island.  Seriously prior to DI how did they get back and forth  Wink  Oh yeah it was a sectred... Wink  just busting you there Bob.  It is one of those continuity issues LOST has had right along.  they flub up stuff on us now and then.
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« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2010, 05:15:52 PM »

I got Samuel from Lostpedia
"Samuel", often used as a reference to the character's initial casting call.

If you search for Samuel, you get MIB
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« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2010, 05:18:07 PM »

I thought it was Samuel.  Wasn't that how he was cast?

Well, when it first aired, IMDB had him as "Man 2", now it has him listed as "Man in Black" played by Titus Welliver
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1399779/fullcredits#cast

Ergo that is why I refer to him as MN2
@wild Lil---I think the point that opgelost is trying to make is that Ilana and Richard should know each other, regardless of his name.



Just because  you follow the same leader it doesn't mean you know the other people.  The others have a vast worldwide network as we see so it wasn't surprising from my view

Right, and I agree with that, but seeing as she knows the current location of Jacob's cabin, she must have been there semi recently, and if travel to and from the island is a closely guarded secret (Richard's words, not mine), then he should know her. Keep in mind, I'm only really taking this side of the arguement, because I have no reasonable explanation myself.

Well not that closley guarded if they can tranport from the pods and then Jacob can leave the island whenver he wants.  I mean whatever perspective Richard was saying that was to protect the island.  Seriously prior to DI how did they get back and forth  Wink  Oh yeah it was a sectred... Wink  just busting you there Bob.  It is one of those continuity issues LOST has had right along.  they flub up stuff on us now and then.

Fair enough. You actually convinced me with the comment about Richard maybe being off the island when she was there. Okay, this is wrapped up for me. I do hope that they "officially" explain that, but as for now, I'm good. Thanks WL
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« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2010, 05:20:23 PM »

thinks I'll call him Nigel... <shrug> why not?
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« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2010, 05:38:39 PM »

thinks I'll call him Nigel... <shrug> why not?

why not?? Because that's just one more name to add to the pile. LOL
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« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2010, 06:59:27 PM »

thinks I'll call him Nigel... <shrug> why not?

I love Nigel good solid name.

@Bob----- yeah well you know I can beat a dead horse down with facts  or reasonable doubt.  Guess is why I play a lawyer on TV and my next role is to land Kate in Jail that witch...you forgot I dislike that woman also
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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2010, 09:50:09 PM »

thinks I'll call him Nigel... <shrug> why not?

I love Nigel good solid name.

@Bob----- yeah well you know I can beat a dead horse down with facts  or reasonable doubt.  Guess is why I play a lawyer on TV and my next role is to land Kate in Jail that witch...you forgot I dislike that woman also

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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2010, 09:54:02 PM »

This just bugs me....there must be a reason. Huh
It's a writers/plot/twist/suprise thing...LOL
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« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2010, 01:49:05 AM »

He probably doesn't have a name, in any conventional manner. Probably known by many names. If he was just a dude named Bob or Greg he wouldn't be that impressive.

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« Reply #40 on: February 09, 2010, 08:38:06 AM »

He probably doesn't have a name, in any conventional manner. Probably known by many names. If he was just a dude named Bob or Greg he wouldn't be that impressive.

Run! It's ****ing BOB! RUN!

See... doesn't really have that strong sense of imminent doom about it, does it?

HEY!! I can be pretty intimidating when I need to be.
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« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2010, 10:58:40 AM »

He probably doesn't have a name, in any conventional manner. Probably known by many names. If he was just a dude named Bob or Greg he wouldn't be that impressive.

Run! It's ****ing BOB! RUN!

See... doesn't really have that strong sense of imminent doom about it, does it?

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« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2010, 11:24:16 AM »

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He probably doesn't have a name, in any conventional manner. Probably known by many names. If he was just a dude named Bob or Greg he wouldn't be that impressive.

Is this pick on Bob and Greg week  Grin damn, I need to start throwing a few insults about around here and toughen up  Undecided

Only kidding of course, I know what you mean, the name Jacob has alot of history associated with it and so our MIB would need an appropriate historic name too...... I still dont see whats wrong with calling him Greg (or Gregory as my mom calls me!)  Tongue
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« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2010, 12:52:05 PM »

He probably doesn't have a name, in any conventional manner. Probably known by many names. If he was just a dude named Bob or Greg he wouldn't be that impressive.

Run! It's ****ing BOB! RUN!

See... doesn't really have that strong sense of imminent doom about it, does it?

HEY!! I can be pretty intimidating when I need to be.

yeah we heard  Wink Grin  - need to find a new horse

HUH?!?! LOL, I was kidding, what are you talking about??
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« Reply #44 on: February 09, 2010, 01:11:43 PM »

thinks I'll call him Nigel... <shrug> why not?

I love Nigel good solid name.

@Bob----- yeah well you know I can beat a dead horse down with facts  or reasonable doubt.  Guess is why I play a lawyer on TV and my next role is to land Kate in Jail that witch...you forgot I dislike that woman also

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!!

What you said ... huh?!? never mind Bob just think of  good things about LOST tonight
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