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In one of the best scenes of the night Dr. Chang busts in on Miles, Jin, and Hurley getting ready to flee dharmaville. Chang wants to know if they're really from the future, and Hurley awkwardly denies it. Chang knows just the question to ask too, first asking when Hurley was born, and finally asking him who was the president. You can see Hurley struggling for just a moment before he spills the beans. What's even more funny is that when they arrived at Dharmaville, Hurley asked Sawyer what he should do if they ask him questions, like who the president is. And Sawyer just responded wtih this isn't a gameshow. See! If Sawyer had just told him who the president was, Hurley could have pulled it off!
When Charles Widmore comes to visit a broken down and memory deprived Daniel Faraday, just after the Oceanic wreckage was found, we get a quick glimpse of a magazine on the couch. That magazine is an August 2003 issue of WIRED. The cover says, "The Super Power Issues," as well as "The Impossible Gets Real." There is also a mention of Time Travel on the cover as well.
Hurley and Miles started a new, special kind of friendship tonight that I hope we see more of in the future. Of course, it does make me worry for MIles a little. Afterall, people who come in contact with Hurley don't always fare so well. But in Whatever Happened, Happened there was some fantastic dialog between the two on the specifics of time travel. Hurley definitely represents many of the feelings the fans have had this season. Follow the jump for a clip of their time travel discussion from tonight.
If you haven't already read AstroJones' article titled "A Response to Jugdish: Time is a Two-by-Four...", I suggest you do....it talks about the two major types of Time Travel depicted in Sci-Fi shows & movies. Also if you ever plan to build a time machine and go back in time to kill Hitler, his article will prepare you for some of the possible problems you may face.
I really enjoyed his article, and wrote a lengthy response about my in-depth thoughts about Time Travel which I've had over the years. Surprisingly it fits in well with what's been happening on Lost. Even more surprising, some people not only understood my ramblings, but enjoyed it. So here I attempt to touch up my initial ramblings on AstroJones' article for the front page.
Yes, the title of this investigation does indeed sound like a new children's book set to hit the bookstores soon, but its nothing more than a reference in Lost. When the Orchid disappears before their eyes, Locke is forced to crawl down a Well that sits nearby in order to reach the donkey wheel of time travel.
Time travel sure is messy, isn't it? Last week, and again today, Jugdish wrote articles talking about his frustration, as a non-sci-fi geek (unlike myself) in understanding it all. I'm a huge sci-fi fan, and always have been, but I too was hoping they wouldn't go down this road. Not because I don't like it, because this is some of the most fantastic and fun television I have ever watched. But I totally understand how people unfamiliar with time travel, or sci-fi could be frustrated. Hell, even people who DO love sci-fi and time travel can get flustered in all of this mess, myself included. So, at the suggestion of Jugdish, I'm going to dish out some of my thoughts on time travel in the Lost world. I'm going to mostly focus on those darned old rules, because that seems to be the root of everyone's issues. Just remember, time travel isn't really possible (as far as we know) and therefore everything I say, and everything everyone else says on this site is purely their own understanding and conjecture. This of course amplifies our problem of understanding it, but we are truly at the mercy of the writers on this.
Yesterday, Jugdish posted an interesting article briefly conveying his perspective on the expanded use and incorporation of time travel as a major thematic element in the early episodes of LOST's fifth season. Jugdish writes, "I am a little different than most of our regular members here at SWLS. I am not a science fiction fan. I do not watch any sci fi shows. Lost tricked me by drawing me in with a great story filled with fantastic actors playing interesting roles." Judish's reaction to the sci-fi element of time travel in LOST is not uncommon, and certainly worthy of discussion. However, I think a much larger question looms in the shadows of such conversations. Jugdish reaches the conclusion that time travel in LOST might be okay - as long as it is limited to and obeys certain rules (as outlined by Ms. Hawking and Faraday) and thus preventing any cliched paradoxical "what if I shoot my grandfather" situations. True enough, maybe time travel will work out if it stays between the lines, but what about the broader rules that govern LOST as a show? The question isn't just whether or not the rules of time travel in LOST are grounded enough, but whether the rules of LOST itself are still solid enough to keep the show firmly anchored (and keep us watching)?
Tonight we managed to get a few shots of Daniel's Journal again. Several of the pages look similar to the ones we saw last year, and they mostly appear to contain equations.
Tonight, we got to see Pierre Chang venture into the Orchid, back during the Dharma heyday when the Orchid was still being constructed. It seems an accident happened when they hit the chamber where the frozen donkey wheel resides. The images after the jump are the sonar imaging of that chamber and the donkey-wheel. There appear to be lots of numbers on the paper, but they are meaningless and random as far as I can tell. IF you see something we don't, let us know!
If you're like me, as you prepare for tonight's installment of LOST on ABC, you're thinking back to last week's offering, "The Constant", and finding yourself still puzzling over the ramifications of that show, and how it may or may not impact the rest of the season, and future seasons of LOST. Time Travel has been a small theme in the multitude of themes in LOST since Desmond blew himself through time after turning the failsafe key in the hatch. At that time, the rules of "time travel" were loosely explained to Desmond (and us) by an enigmatic elderly shopkeep. The main rule basically being that the future cannot be significantly altered. Some sort of cosmic-will would "course correct" and make sure whatever was supposed to happen, would happen. Thus, despite Desmond's ability to foresee Charlie's multiple deaths, he was forced to give into the laws of infinity and explain to Charlie, "Your gonna die". This steadfast rule, however, seemed to be broken, or at least stretched to the limits, in "The Constant". Love it, or hate it, LOST took a Quantum Leap last week.
If Dan's Journal didn't give you enough information to break your mind, maybe his chalkboard is up to the task. The creator's of LOST went full force into Time Travel with "The Constant". A time traveling rodent named Eloise gave us a glimpse into what might be happening with Desmond. Maybe. Right? But, what about Minkowski? Did he travel through time? I'm not sure, but if you want to be even more confused, I have some images of Dan's chalkboard uploaded. Just click the Continue Reading link to complete your mind's destruction. Or... maybe it's not really all that complicated. Take a look and find out!
"The Constant" was a mind blowing episode. In more ways than one. Everyone's going to be hitting up their astrophysicist friend tomorrow to help them explain what the heck was going on. Especially if you looked into Dan Faraday's journal... or chalkboard. Up until this point, the writer's of LOST have avoided any blatant paradoxes in their time travel stories, but not this time. Here goes the mind bending question of the night (which was asked in the episode), wouldn't Faraday remember his encounter with Desmond? It also appears than past-Dan first learned of the "formula" when Desmond told him the numbers from future-Dan, who got the numbers from his notebook... when he met Des... ah, never mind, I have a headache. It sure looked like future-Dan had never seen that note about Desmond being his constant until he was reading it on the beach. Ah well. Hopefully Sam and Ziggy will pop in and explain everything to us next week. Jump the break to see more pictures from the journal, and lets see what we can figure out!
In "The Economist", Daniel Faraday finds time to run a little experiment. Coordinating with Regina on the boat, Daniel sets up some sort of emitter, and tells Regina to fire the payload towards it. At first, it seems like the high-tech version of yard-darts failed. But a while later, a rocket appears in the sky, and races towards the location of Dan and his contraptions. Surprising, no one is alarmed about the safety of an inbound missile flying towards them with no means of slowing down. The missile avoids hitting anyone, or the copter. Then, something curious happens. Over the jump for more.
And you're here now. Several users requested an investigation on this. In 3x21, "Greatest Hits", A sticker on Charlie's guitar seen as he puts it into the case reads "I Was Here Moments Ago". Is this fodder for the time travel fans? Does it have anything to do with an alternate reality, and Desmond's meeting with Charlie in a similar scene when he traveled back in time? Or is it just a sticker... a variation on the "I WAS HERE" phrase ("Kilroy was here").
In "Flashes Before Your Eyes", Desmond visits a pub to discuss time travel with his physics buddy. Des believes he recognizes the events transpiring around him and can predict the future. Looking up to the TV, he sees a soccer match in play, and predicts how the game will end. On closer look, the ads on the field in the soccer game feature Lost staples: The Hanso Foundation, Oceanic Airlines, Apollo Candy Bards, Buddies Diapers (from Charlie's Commercial), Mr. Cluck's Chicken Shack, and Gannon Car rentals. Also included is a company with KRONOS (time) in the name, and something called EXPOSE.
The scene in "Flashes Before Your Eyes" where Desmond visits the antique store if full of symbolism related to time. Throughout the whole conversation between the enigmatic store owner and Des, you can hear clocks ticking. In the background, numerous clocks of various styles and sizes litter the store. This appears to be intentional, given that this episode in particular is about time.
When Desmond travels back to his past in "Flashes Before Your Eyes", we find him on the floor, having apparently fallen from a ladder while painting the wall. Next to him lies a paint can, with the word "FUTU..." on it. The end of the word is covered with paint, but it could possible spell "FUTURE". This might be a stretch, but since the episode had to do with the them of time, I thought it should go up.
If you play the audio backwards from the brainwashing techno-music scene, you can hear three times, the line: "Only fools are enslaved by space and time".
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