Jackyl,
You said the Adam & Eve bodies would be Jack & Kate? I disagree. I believe it will be Rose & Bernard. They found their place by the ocean and they can be together forever in peace, just as they were found in Season 1 all dead and skeletony and stuff.

why Wolt apeard infront of lock and shannon without being dead? was that the smokey or there is some other reason?

Can someone explain why people use the threads for non-lost reasons. Like the "word game" and "pet peeves"? What does this have to do with Lost?

I dont get it.

Hey im new here. Does anyone else think that the ash around the cabin could be the ashes of jacob. As he was thrown into fire after being stabbed by ben.

It is believed that Hurley disturbed the ashes when he stumbled upon the cabin a little while back. Whether that gap in the ashes really equates to letting someone (I.E. Black Shirt Guy or whoever) out of their "prison" is still anyone's guess. On verra!

who disturbed the ash circle that allowed him to escape then

If it is good vs. evil, which I think it very well could be, then I have some questions I hope can be answered. Didn't the guy in black state that Jacob brought the ship to the island? If he did, why would he? Also, wasn't Jacob thought of initially as a mean spirited person by people on the island? With his lists and such?but we refer to him as 'good' now? Does that mean it never really was Jacob in the cabin? That it was the other guy's? If so, then that might make sense that he would try to make people think he was Jacob so they would hate him. (attempting to fulfill his loophole plan) So was the other guy banished to the cabin to keep him contained? And since the ash circle was disturbed that allowed him to escape?

ok, since Richard serves Jacob, not Dude#2, and Richard knew the right answer to what lies in the shadow, I don't think the candidate they are talking about is the loophole, but someone to help w/ Jacob's side. My pic-- Hugo. It makes sense since he was encouraged to jump off a cliff and is continually tormented by dead people -- all smokey/Esau/AJ trying to mess up his chances. I had a theory that everything Hugo has said the whole show is the truth, and now I'm liking the Forest Gump idea of Hugo just wandering into being the hero (candidate).

Jacob versus ?????, Black versus white, good versus evil. I think this summarises an age old battle. Evil trying to highlight the worst in man and white/good/Jacob always prevailing.

I think the scenario which led us here was caught in a continous loop, a groundog day, with the man in black alternating elements to try and win, find a hole in the loop, using all different permiatations. One of the earliest references aside from the egypt connections was the black rock, and by the point of its arrival the man in black is so desperate to kill him, stating they come they fight they destroy etc. Who else had come, as far as we're aware no-one? I believe this is a repitition, but with subtle changes the outcome differs. I think Jacobs touch influence of the losties will be the reason why the loop will be eventually reset and faith in man restored.

So... if I read you right and I understand my LOST-mythos:

Jacob's nemesis is Smokey and has wanted to kill Jacob for a long time, but some rule on the island prohibits him from doing that himself. For sometime the Nemesis has been searching for the right candidate whom he could play puppet master to and have that candidate kill Jacob (thus the "loophole"). Every time we see Smokey interact with people he is scanning their brains to understand their psychological disposition and discern if this person can be tricked into killing Jacob. Smokey/Nemesis has the ability to take on the appearance of someone else, but that person must be deceased. Whether the person's dead body has to be on the island is still debatable.

For Smokey's purposes - Locke was a candidate and so was Eko. Eko was a huge disappointment to Smokey, and therefore when Eko refused to allow the guilt over his brother's death to enslave him, Smokey bashed him to death. Who would have thought that Ben would have been the one to get conned into doing it?

Questions: What of the dead people Hugo sees off the island? What of Hugo's crazy friend who tried to get him to jump off a cliff? Was that a test? What of Kate's black horse? What is the relationship between the magnetic pocket, the hatch's destruction, and Smokey's magnetic make-up that has been eluded to?

Conclusion: The Yin and the Yang (the black and the white) heavily suggested in Season 1 refers to Jacob and Nemesis.

Unrelated Conjecturable Leap: The skeletons of "Adam and Eve" found near the water caves in Season 1 will end up being Jack and Kate.

Lost-Volt: You said Smokie isn't behind the reappearance of the dead folk because the guy who tried to kill Jacob is, but I think they are one in the same. That's why Smokie formed as Alex and told Ben to listen to Locke. The guy knew that Alex's form would best influence Ben to listen to the him as Locke later on when he tells him to kill Jacob.

I think Jacob is Sobek. Sobek was the statue under which Jacob is living. There is a belief that Sobek was the guardian of RA the head of the gods and his sun boat. The boat was used by Ra and other gods such as Osirus to travel between the earth and heaven.

The other man dressed in black that was talking to Jacob was Apep the god of evil and darkness. Everyday Apep would try and devour the boat. He would occasionally succeed and the world would become dark (solar eclipse). Apep was seen as a void, black hole or large dark snake (possibly the smoke monster). In lost I think that this conflict is going on for control of the Island. This is shown by the picture of Sobek and a snake on the wall of temple when Ben is in the lower chamber to be judged.

Jacob and the man in black cannot hurt each other. The only thing they can do is influence humans to do things for them. That is why Jacob tells Ben he has a choice before Ben stabs him.

The man in Black was able to get to Jacob by assuming the form of Locke when Locke is killed by Ben and his body is brought back to the island. Being the leader of the other he was able to influence them to go to Jacob. He also wants to deal with the other group with Locke's body after he is done so the group would not be able to expose him. Once inside with Jacob he has Ben kill Jacob because he can't. However, since Ben is a man he can if he makes the choice to do so.

skuller86: i used to be on the richard is egyptian train, but since i saw him playing with the ship in a bottle, i've moved to the richard is magnus's right hand man train

Oh and also- if they found Locke in his coffin, why was Christian missing from his coffin?

Lost-Volt: are there any appearances of dead people on the island whose bodies were not on the island? I'm wracking my brain, but I might be forgetting someone... Christian, Locke, Alex, and Yemi's bodies are all on the island. What about the appearances of people who are not dead like Walt? Are there others like Walt that I can't remember right now? Obviously Walt is different and I don't think his appearance was related to the smoke monster. And I am convinced Dave was just Hurley being crazy, not an appearance of any kind. It is interesting that those four characters' dead bodies are all on the island though.

At first I thought he spoke ancient egyptian. Which I am still under the firm belief that Richard (and now Jacob) is an ancient egyptian.

Hey Sledge... you gonna post any more about the incident 1 & 2?

Murple: They made a strange choice with the script. The letter that you are seeing as "x" is an "e," so fix that and your transliteration is about right (the last letter is an "s" but it looks like a "z" because it is in the shadow).

Theoi tosa doien (h)osa phresi seisi menoinas.

To frasier9 :

I think that the guy (who wanted to kill Jacob) can somehow borrow the appearance of whoever died on the island or whose dead body gets there. And with the dead body, he has access to memories.
I also think that this man borrowed the bodies (appearance) of all characters like Jack´s father, Yemi, Ben´s daughter ... it is not smokey at all.

Remember when Ben fell in the temple and was approached by his daughter? Where was Lock? What kept him? And he appeared shortly after the daghter disappeared. What do you guys think?

That doesn't even look like valid Greek to me. If I'm reading it right, it'd be pronounced like:

thxoi tosa doixn osafrxsi sesi mxnoinaz

I don't know Greek, but that doesn't look like it's even pronounceable.

how does the imposter Locke know about experiences the real Locke had such as the first time they went to visit Jacobs cabin, details on how Ben killed him (Locke) Is Locke and the first scene guy somehow connected in this body?

so what is written on the tapestry?
and when will the user requested images be posted?

now there is some greek references ... with teh whole "fates" thing making the tapestry "of life" they never woven for themselves but for the "mortals" mayeb what jacob was making wasnt for him... but for Locke? and Raichard referenced " The one who will save us." still not talking about him self... mayeb locke???

No problem. The weaving is complete at the end of the episode, if I remember right. Can you post a screencap of the finished product?

thanks CDog, I have updated the entry above.

Actually, Jacob is weaving a phrase in Greek, which is not a repeat of "He who will save us all," but rather a line from Homer's Odyssey (6.180) which, in smoothed out translation, reads, "May the gods give you everything your heart longs for."

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