The following conversation took place in the late hours of the night and next morning after the airing of Namaste.

Sledgeweb: Ok, just putting the map up, what's up?

Astro: The map is just a map of the swan station, right

Sledgeweb: Yeah, see GEODOME. That's all i see that i can make out. Maybe RAMP and PANTRY. Don't see anything great in there like "JUGHEAD BURIAL SITE"... I assume it is suppose to be the exact same model seen in the Dharma video... unless they piece together multiple verisons of these models for some reason.

Astro: I find it interesting that Radzinsky seemed to think they could dig a giant hole in the ground and install a Dharma station there without the hostiles finding out what they were doing. But who knows

Sledgeweb: yeah, man Radzinsky was a let down if you ask me... I mean, we've been waiting for him for a LONG time... we needed to get someone more like Patchy or something... and, speaking of, when are we going to get to a younger Patchy?

Astro: I know, I wasn't paying attention when they first said Radzinsky, I just heard flame and thought it would be Patchy. Then it registered

Sledgeweb: so, what about the barracks being a wreck in 2008?

Astro: 2007

Sledgeweb: well, one or the other

Astro: lol. yeah, beats me. maybe the hostiles came back for supplies

Sledgeweb: it looked like the Others had never occupied it

Astro: well, maybe they just stayed out of that one building.

Sledgeweb: yeah, but why would they do that? i mean, they were living there... just seemed odd.

Astro: well, what's the other alternative? that history was changed somehow

Sledgeweb: that they are on 1985B

Astro: alternate timeline?

Sledgeweb: yeah, but I hope not

Astro: yeah, I don't think so. But its possible.

Sledgeweb: well, Sawyer had an interesting line... he said something like "Faraday has a pretty good idea on what we can change, and what we can't" ... something to that effect so it seems they can change some things.

Astro: see, I just took that to be Sawyer's interpretation of how they can be in Dharma without changing things. To Sawyer, it probably seems like he's changing things. But Daniel knows that nothing is happening that hasn't always happened.

Sledgeweb: I don't know I'm on the fence on that, because, as we've said, obviously they have to try to change something at some point

Astro: agreed. But I think that point is further off. I don't know, maybe we see something change by the season finale, but I don't think before that at all. And possibly not until next year

Sledgeweb: The runway was sweet though, we called that one (but there were skeptics). As soon as the episode started back in the plane, I said "runway!"

Astro: yeah, I wonder when they finished the runway though? I guess they could have been working on it before Jack and crew got there though

Sledgeweb: yeah, there is still one group that we don't know what they have been up to... the people that were with Alpert.... they will have supposedly been on the island 3 years in normal time doing stuff (while Sawyer's group spent three years in the 70's and the Oceanic 6 were off island).

Astro: oh true. its also interesting to wonder how Alpert knew to build the runway in the first place

Sledgeweb: after a year of sitting around at the temple "Hey, anyone want to go work on that runway?"

Astro: lol.

Sledgeweb: and, if they did go back and occupy that little island again, where are they now? also, what ever hapened to the rest of the lostiest? are we to assume they were killed by the others in the 50's? (i mean rose, bernard, redhsirts, etc)

Astro: yeah, I was just wondering about that same thing. they couldn't be wandering the jungle for the last 3 years

Sledgeweb: maybe they hooked up with the others somehow. Widmore did say "killed or captured"... maybe they were captured by the others in the 50's, and then flashed through time, and still ended up with the others...

Astro: then shouldn't there be a really old Rose and Bernard with the 2007 Others?

Sledgeweb: if they made it that long

Astro: maybe rose and bernard are Adam and Eve. they lived out their lives in the rape caves

Sledgeweb: lol. maybe. "Rose, you wanna go live in the rape caves?"

Rose and Bernard Nadler
1 Rape Cave Rd.
Craphole Island.

Astro: lol

Sledgeweb: next week's preview didn't really excite me. I hope we get back to locke soon.

Astro: Oh, I thought next week looked pretty good. But I would like to see locke again

Sledgeweb: yeah, i hope its good... just wasn't thrilled by the preview... too much Sayid.

Astro: its ok. He might die this season. lol.

Sledgeweb: you think Kate will?

Astro: naaa. I think Kate sawyer and jack are safe and I have a hard time imagining Ben getting killed, but I still think its an option

Sledgeweb: kate's character hasn't really done anything important in a long time.

Astro: true. But she's still the object of Jack and Sawyer's affection.

Sledgeweb: yeah, maybe... Jack at least. Sawyer seemed ok with things for now.

Astro: I mean, at this point, if they kill her, they have no romantic tension in the show.

Sledgeweb: well, Juliet liked Jack...

Astro: yeah, but he was always into Kate. Even Juliet knew that

Sledgeweb: yeah but, there's always Kris Kristoferson... you know how HE swings. and whatever Christian and Claire are doing in that Cabin all that time. "Wanna go see the donkey wheel again, Claire?"

Astro: lol. true. so where do you stand on the Christian part of it? is it really him, and he came back to life, like Locke? Or is he a manifestation of the island

Sledgeweb: well, I tend to think manifestation... but, the line about "tell my son hello", seems to indicate there is still part of Christian there. But, I don't think it's strictly a reanimation of his body... I mean, he has the ability to appear and vanish I think, so it's more spectral... but I think he can make himself tangible as well. But, maybe it is actually using Christian's physical body, and is just able to teleport and things like that... but, to answer your question, I don't think it is just Christian awakened and doing things on his own. I think something has joined with him.

Astro: yeah, I've never once left the manifestation camp.But I am having a harder time believing he's not alive.

Sledgeweb: but why Christian? there are other dead bodies around, why does it appear as Christian?

Astro: because the fans respond well to christian. lol.

Sledgeweb: yeah, i'm beginning to think that Christian is almost like a host and servant to Jacob. Like the keymaster and gatekeeper in ghostbusters. they still have there own identity, but they are doing the bidding of someone else.

Astro: my honest feeling is that all of the theories and talk and refusal to believe that Christian was dead made Darlton say "hey, instead of casting someone new as Jacob, why don't we just have Christian be Jacob in some weird way that nobody can explain or understand."

Sledgeweb: lol. it's a tough call. on one hand, you do have a missing body. on the other hand, we have seen other people appear on the island and off the island... Walt, Ecko, Ana Lucia, etc. So, we know manifestatons are in play

Astro: exactly. I agree though that it could be some mixture of the two

Sledgeweb: But, can there be both? manifestations, and also a physical body being used? yeah, maybe, also, remember that Alpert wanted the body... so, maybe there is something to bodies too...

Astro: well, maybe smokey took the body and is somehow able to use the physical body, laying in his cave, to manifest Christian to everyone

Sledgeweb: it probably ties into all the "underworld" themes... the bodies, the manifestations, etc. BTW, i'm pretty convinced the person behind Sun is a crew member on a computer playing minesweeper

Astro: lol

Sledgeweb: it is strange. i'm really wondering if it is a mistake or not.

Astro: that was my wife's first comment. I told her no way, but secretly I wondered the same thing

Sledgeweb: only because, i can sort of see the white mark which i initially saw as playing cards, as white letters on a t-shirt or something like that (a graphic T) which would not be what a LOST character would be wearing, if it were claire or someone... but, it's too hard to say for certain what it is. but, for now, I'm still going with it being Claire... bored with tagging along on another one of Dr. Crazies missions... sitting in the back - sweeping some mines, waiting for him to finish being enigmatic.

Astro: lol

Sledgeweb: Claire: "let's go back to the cabin and look at the dog picture some more"

Astro: and of course, it wouldn't REALLY be Emily de Ravin, since they didn't pay her for any scenes this season. It would just be some blond who is supposed to be Claire.

Sledgeweb: yeah. well, she won't be a regular this season, but she could be featured in an episode or two

Astro: yeah, but I thought I read that she wouldn't be seen at all this year. Could be wrong though

Sledgeweb: yeah, i don't know the details... i heard she is still under contract, so she will be back for season 6. but, I'm not sure if they will use her at all this season. I could see it being beneficial to give her a scene or two, maybe in the finale if they can build it up... right now, seeing Claire isn't really that big of an AHA! because we don't really know what is going on with her anyways... but if they could build it up, where seeing Claire would be a bigger deal, then maybe....

Astro: yeah, true

Sledgeweb: New series end theory... Jack and Kate go to the donkey wheel one last time, turn it... and end up in the Garden of Eden at the beginning of creation, and it turns out, they are the real adam and eve...

Astro: lol

Sledgeweb: God shows up and is about to create male and female, and then sees them and is like WTF? Jack and Kate, shrugging sheepishly "Donkey wheel!". God... "Ho ho ho!"

Astro: lol.

Sledgeweb: and cut to black. THE END. But, i really want a CLUE ending to LOST.

Astro: where there are 3 or 4 endings. lol.

Sledgeweb: the two hour series finale should just be multiple endings of LOST.

Astro: that would rule

Sledgeweb: "It could have happened like that, but here's what really happened..." "Kidding! We wouldn't do that to you, it ended like this..." "No? You don't like that one? Ok, what if this happened..."

Astro: lol See, I like that

Sledgeweb: me too I want some funny stupid endings, dang it!

Astro: Personally, I'd like to see a Spaceballs ending

Sledgeweb: hrm, i don't remember how spaceballs ended?

Astro: Ben and Widmore crash land on the planet of the apes and they see them and say "Oh shit, there goes the planet" the apes say that

Sledgeweb: lol. so, how are we going to do this Ben Beat-Down montage video?

Astro: I'm not sure how we'd do the Ben beat-down

Sledgeweb: HERE. (if you weren't familiar with the song for the montage) i can do the video, if we can figure out where all the scenes are of ben getting beat up. i wonder if someone has a list [HELP US OUT READERS!]

Astro: lol. dude this song is perfect

Sledgeweb: it's almost perfect, if it wasn't about a specific girl but i think it works

Astro: did Ben appear in season 2?

Sledgeweb: yeah, as the prisoner, right? henry gale?

Astro: yeah

Sledgeweb: there's a lot of abuse there lol

Astro: lol. Yep.

Sledgeweb: do you have the dvds?

Astro: well, I have season 2 on DVD, so I could look through them for scenes of him getting bloodied but I don't have season 3 or 4

Sledgeweb: k. i think i have all of 3 and 4 recorded on my media center, would have to check though. definitely all of 4. i think the hard part is just figuring out where all the scenes are of him getting beat up

Astro: even that shouldn't be too hard he gets beaten at least 80% of the time

Sledgeweb: lol.

Astro: ok, I need to go to bed. I have to get up early

Sledgeweb: k. me too. later

Astro: later