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Jacks flash forward took place way after Hurley's and Kate's, at least a year with that beard. Jack was afraid that Hurley would say something. So I'm assuming that Jack did or tried to stop something that ended up horrible for Claire. Maybe they are still stuck on the island and that's why he was trying to get back.

I think you have a great theory Shivy, although the Jack thing I think is deeper somehow since he was worried about Hurley saying something.

I don't think it's Kate's real son. I really doubt the show would make a reveal this huge and than do a fooled ya. The show is ending in 2 seasons, they have to start putting the pieces together.

I think Clair was getting on the helicopter to give Kate Aaron- hence Desmond's vision. I have a feeling the ship people would only take 6 certain people back and the picked exactly who they would take. Last minute, Claire sneaks the baby to Kate so Aaron can have a better life. Jake won't see him because he's feels guilty they are all left on the island.

I think this flashforward is about 2 years after rescue, as Aaron appears between 2-3 years old. They didn't want to arrest a hero with a baby soon after rescue, so they let her get her life back together before trial.

She prob told everyone she was 4 months pregnant when she was in Australia and had the baby on the island. The guy who caught her on the island just brought her home, i don't remember her ever going into a jail in Australia? And even if she did, that wouldn't mean she would go through a physical.

Oh, and I think the Oceanic 6 agreed to say Kate was the true hero since she was the one in the most trouble. Although, not sure how believable a prego hero is?

Well, if that is not island Aaron then Kate and the rest would have to get off the island within the next 9 months (if not before) as woman cannot give birth on the island. I'm banking on it being island Aaron, just not sure why yet. The most obvious reason would be Claire dying somehow and Jack either having something to do with it or not being able to stop it and feeling guilt as a result. Does he know Aaron is his nephew, I don't know. BTW White Rabbit the card that Daniel missed on the beach was the 3 of spades, not clubs (not sure of significance, if any).

I think the theory that the baby is Kate and Sawyer's, named Aaron after ""Island Aaron" makes great sense. If Kate had physicals at the prison and after arriving, doctors can tell if a woman has given birth or not. Wouldn't that be just like the writers to make this a double twist.
It would explain why Jack has no interest in seeing Aaron, since it would be Sawyer's baby. Also it might explain Kate's over the top reaction to Sawyer's reaction to her not being pregnant...gleeful and clearly relieved.
"Island Aaron" was delivered and treated by Jack when sick so I would think he would certainly be interested in seeing him. I would think Hurley would have felt connected to "Island Aaron"as well. So whoever's idea this was may find themselves being correct.

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http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Nursery.jpg

Waffler:
Here's a still of the nursery located in "The Staff" station: http://tviv.org/Image:Lost-StaffNursery.jpg

Kates friend Tom Brennen does die. She told him to get out of the car when she's fleeing the hospital after trying to talk to her mom. He refuses to get out, she drives through a barricade and Tom gets struck with a bullet from the sheriff's gun.
However I don't think she would be charged with murder for this though, she didn't shoot him. But none of the charges listed in the courtroom really fit.

A total of 57 babies have played Aaron as a baby on the show, and a kid named "William Blanchette" played the two year old Aaron in Eggtown.
Lostpedia says that Aaron is two, but I guess that's not necessarily confirmation.

Emilie de Ravin, who plays Claire does not have any children.

Doesn't this bedroom look a bit like the bedroom in the medical hatch? Didn't that bedroom also have clouds/sky painted on the walls? If I'm not totally off, it would be a cool investigation to compare the two rooms and see if there are any similar props.

That kid looks a lot like Claire. Does anyone know if it's the actresses real-life child?

He doesn't look like he has Downs to me. And he looks no more than about 3.

Taed has a good point. Is that the original Aaron? If it is, then why would Jack's visiting be an issue? After all, the original Aaron is Jack's nephew. Now if Aaron was Sawyer's - that could be an issue for Jack.

Now that Kate's free, what about Tom?
Not Ben's Tom but her childhood boyfriend Tom.
Didn't he die during her escape attempt at the
hospital - or did he?

Dead or alive, wouldn't Kate be on trial for
that too? That part of the story just imploded!?

Does anyone have a clip of Desmond's vision of Claire? I don't remember her falling off and would really like to see it. Thanks

It's not really a spoiler, just someone remembering information and pointing it out, that's what people DO here.
It would be a spoiler if they'd seen the episode already somehow and wrote what happened.
Maybe you shouldn't read the comments if you don't want to see things like that.

Conway -- WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY would you post that Claire is going to fall or be pushed out of a helicopter? WHY? I didn't know that's going to happen. And I didn't WANT to know that's going to happen. Why can't people post comments on an otherwise great website without ruining future episodes for their fellow readers?

Well, isn't the bike from the end of the orientation movie for station 6 - The Orchid?

Qoute : foundit said:
in regards to Desmonds vision of Claire getting on the helicopter, does anyone recall in the vision her slipping off?

Posted on February 23, 2008 2:28 AM

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This indeed os an possibilty, she isn`t part of the oceanic six. but she did got on the helicopter

in regards to Desmonds vision of Claire getting on the helicopter, does anyone recall in the vision her slipping off?

We used to use clothespins to clip a playing card to the wheelspokes of our bikes to make fun sounds as we rode the bike. I thought the bike photo with the old bike just included the old fashioned use of the card... a nostalgia picture/poster. Why in Aaron's room? For that we can only wait to see if more is revealed to us.

The time frame of how long ago they left the island in the flash forwards is still unknown (though we can make educated guesses). If Aaron was still young, under a year or even up to maybe 2, then he would not remember Clare as being his mother, he wouldn't even remember her at all. So, we still don't know if this is Clare's child or Kate's.

I also thought that Aaron had Down's Syndrome when we first saw him, but didn't once he started waking up.

Also, we don't actually KNOW that that is Clarie's Aaron. For all we know, Claire's Aaron died at some point and that is Kate's biological son named Aaron in memory of him.

In response to whtsinthemagicbox's comment on the three pics in Aaron's room:
If you watch it in motion on tv instead of frozen, you can clearly see the top pic is a monkey, the middle is an alligator, and the bottom is some leaves and large dots, possibly coconuts.
The one before she gets all the way in Aaron's room looks to be a chalkboard with the alphabet on it...and a cabin of some kind.
What I'm surprised no one has noticed is the picture Kate passes when she FIRST walks up the stairs, before she gets to Aaron's room. I don't know if someone can get a shot of that. But it's a painting of a woman standing on the beach. Significance? I doubt it.

Does anyone remember the conversation in the last episode when Ben was patching up Sayid? I believe Sayid complained to Ben about a woman needlessly getting killed. Like she was used for bait or something along those lines... Almost like it was Sayid's motivation for working for Ben (to avenge her). I just wonder if that woman was Claire?

I really thought the baby was Sawyer's when I saw those golden locks. I wouldn't at all be surprised if it still is. Kate could have paid homage to Claire and Aaron by naming her child after island Aaron, either because they stayed behind or because they have passed away. That would explain Jack's reluctance for seeing Kate's baby.

I have this episode recorded in HD and I went back to look at the card in this pic.
It looks to me, 99% sure, to be the 6 of spades.
Then I went back to Dave and the card guessing:
He says the last card is and I quote: "The red 10 of hearts" Don't know why he says "red" there are no black hearts.
The card when revealed turns out to be the 3 of clubs.
And I'm with most people in thinking that Desmond sees Claire get on the helicopter because she does.
Something must happen to her on the freighter, if you watch the preview for next week it looks like we get a new guy, and he doesn't seem nice. Could be this Minkowski character..

The top px to kate's right...I thought that was curious George ???

The striking stand out in this screencap, other than Kate's buttons, is the px with the bicycle and playing card. Odd combo on its own, add to that... the bicycle seems to be an old style Schwin. Don't know why that would be important except the bike has some age on it. Nonetheless...an odd px.

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Ok, this may just be wishful thinking on my part but did anybody notice that between the second and third screen shot Kate's blouse unbuttons by one button?

Um, I don't think Kate stole the baby. She is a lto of things, but a baby stealer is not one.

I think the trial could have taken a long time. after the initial hubub of the "oceanic 6" to die down, then move ahead with the trial of a hero. does anyone think that jack still thinks the baby is sawyers? maybe jack and kate didn't leave the island at the same time, maybe kate stole the baby or claire stowed the baby aboard the copter? maybe kate wants jack to see the baby to show him its aaron and possibly with the time difference on the island, maybe little aaron went from 6 months to 1 year and the trial a year after that making him 2 1/2. I have a 2 1/2 yr old that is similar in size etc.

I also wondered about the time frame. Could Kate have used a false name after they initially arrived in the U.S.? Since it is evident that about 3-4 years have gone by since Kate burned the house and went on her crime spree and a previous post is correct, a 3 year old child would know Kate was not his mom if they left the island shortly before the trial.
I read previous to this episode that Claire fell out of the helicopter ( or was pushed) which would explain Kate raising Aaron. Perhaps she fell and Jack tried to save her hence his guilt
over not succeeding. Very interesting twist for the "Losties" saga.

Seems to me this one is prior to Jack Losing it. (At the end of Season 3)

In this one Kate wants Jack to come by etc etc.

At the end of S3 she wants nothing to do with him.

Add that to the fact that Aaron is like 3-4 makes you wonder how long they have been off the island. Because I'm having a tough time with Kate trial not happening right away or within the first year.

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Looks like a 6 of spades to me.

Also interesting HansoJr. I picked up on the age of Aaron but not what Kate's Mom said. But I would think that if something happened to Claire it's going to happen soon (island time) because Aaron called Kate Mom, he would have remembered Claire being his Mom I would think, just a thought though.

Interesting observation:

Aaron looks like he is 3-4 years old. Wouldn't that make this flash forward sometime in 2008? Say he was 3 1/2. That would make it Feb 2008. Kind of cool.

Also, Kate's Mom says it's been 4 years since she's been diagnosed with a terminal illness, which I remember wasn't too long before the crash.

Desmond saw Claire and the baby getting rescued, so something must have happen to her after she left the island. Is it possible she is one the 8 survivors of the crash that Jack referred to, but not one of the Oceanic 6?

I don't know, the top picture looks like a monkey to me.

Ok, these interpretations may be a bit of a stretch but I am going to post them anyway.

The picture of the boy on the bicycle has connected houses in the back ground which resemble the barracks in “Othersville”. I agree that the red cabin represents Jacob’s cabin.

There are three pictures on the left, Kate’s right. The top one, after lightning and blowing them up, looks like a frightened woman with light colored hair in the foreground holding a baby, under a tree branch. It shows another woman in the background with long curly hair. Possibly representing what happened to Claire and how Kate ended up with Aaron.

The second picture shows an alligator, I don’t see any significance in that one.

The bottom picture is very hard to see but kind of looks like people sitting on a beach.

Aaron does not looks like he has Downs Syndrome to me but he definitely does look like Claire.

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I think its kinda weird how is room as a lot of reference to the island...such as the bored in the back.....a piano which jake was playing threw out the show....and also a hut that looks kinda like jacobs cabin....

BTW- did anyone catch Kate's full name at her trial. Catherine Ann Austin. And here I dismissed the people who said that Kate was Annie... maybe they ARE on to something.

Maybe Jack makes some sort of "executive decision" that results in Claire getting killed, so he doesn't want to see Aaron out of guilt.

Desmond had a vision of Claire and Aaron getting into a helicopter, so maybe that does happen, but Claire gets killed after that (say - on the freighter).

As for Jack not wanting to see his nephew, at this point, he doesn't know they're related, does he? We're assuming they'll find this out, but perhaps that little bit will be left unresolved. Of course, Christian Sheppard is seeming to be quite integral to this whole thing (seems to be un-dead in Jacob's cabin, and even more-so, if you watch the last of the mobisodes leading up to Season 4...)

OK, First off Aaron WTF?????

Next, Aaron looked to be about 3-4 years old and Kate's trial looked to be just getting started, so when do they get off the island exactly? Is Aaron who Kate was referring to at the end of season 3 when she told Jack at the airport "I gotta go he's waiting for me"? Why wouldn't Jack want to see his nephew?

And I agree with you gisgtm that this kid looks exactly like Claire, maybe they are really related somehow outside of the show. And bugsy I believe the card that Daniel missed was actually the 3 of spades, not 100% though.

Wasn't there 2 pictures in his room of a couple giant mechanical robots? Maybe related to the mechanical monster thingie on the island?

I'm he one that thought he looked to have Downs Syndrome. Ever read the Steven King book Dreamcatcher? In it (don't waste your time with the movie!) a kid with Downs has special psychic abilities. Could be a tie in, their book club does read SK...

So, what happens to Claire? Or is Kate adding kidnapping to her rap sheet? lol

And now I'm wondering about the psychic telling Claire she must raise her own baby. Would that mean that Kate should not, or was that just a reference to the Others? Hmmm....

So I hope that doesn't technically make Aaron one of the Oceanic 6?

Is there anyway to make out the writing on the chalkboard through the doorway?

So since Jack's nephew is Kate's "son," does that mean Jack and Kate are kissin' cousins?

man if that kid is not the spitting image of CLAIRE! dang!!!! looks a lot lot lot lot like her! I did think Downs Syndrome at first too, i was like whoa they should not go that route but i don't think it's a downs baby.

The card in the painting looks like the 6 of spades which was one of the cards on the table....but I don't remember if Daniel guessed it or not.

I wondered the same thing about the playing card in the picture. I don't think it was one of the exact cards Daniel was guessing (first card was a queen, the second was a club, and the third he guessed a red card and it turned out to be a low numbered black card). Still, it certainly doesn't fit in a picture of a kid riding a bike and must be a reference to the other scene.

Now, what's the connection with Daniel's short term memory failure and Aaron?

i am curious what that board outside his room says... but that seems a little far fetched if they expect us to get clues from that.

I was thinking that Aaron seems to have a mild case of downs syndrome. Does anyone else get this vibe? Or are those just typical little kid fetures?

I noticed some australian native (stuffed) animals in his room like an ostrich, a koala and a platypus!

the bike reminds me of the dharma video, and is the card in that picture one that daniel was guessing?

I wonder if that is a kid that was a baby in a previos season epi?