2x23: System Failure

2x23: System FailureIn "Live Together, Die Alone", we learn that Flight 815 crashed on September 22nd, 2004 (as has been long speculated). Desmond looks over the computer printout from the PEARL STATION, and realizes the day he was late pressing the button and caused a SYSTEM FAILURE, is the same day the plane crashed.

It seems, oddly enough, the formatting of the print log has changed since we last saw it. When Desmond looks at the print out, he sees:

922044:16 which seems to indicate 9-22-04 4:16

However, when we first saw the print log, it contained numbers like:
41602068:29 which doesn't fit the same formatting (you can't easily turn this into a date). The closest would be 41 6-02-06 8:29, but, in this case, what is the 41 and why is the year 2006? This is most likely a continuity or prop error.

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lu1230 said:

no that date can be figured out they just use minutes and second too

Geronimo Jackson said:

Quote from: LOFOHere are a few more observations of the differences between the two printouts.  I noticed that on the first printout the last two digits were always 17, 05, 53, 41, and 29 which is simply the result of the 108 minute time span.  I would expect to see the times ending with the same numbers on the system failure printout.  That's not the case.  From what I can see on the image Sledge gave us is the digits 16 and 52... just one digit off from two of the times on the original printout.  Also, if you notice  on the system failure printout the digits that I can read are ...410:52 and the next readable 922044:16.  The difference between the last five digits (w/ respect to time) is 366:36.  This is really odd if this is a log of every 108 minutes the button being pushed because the numbers are just a line apart and there is no way that this keeps in step with the 108 minute seperation in the numbers. Some of this was a continuity error.But  the printout was from before Desmond rearrived.he went quite aways back on the printouts.It was suppose to be the time he was late pushing the button and computer said system failure.When Locke was late pushing it it didn't say this on the computer.

BobBX542 said:

Well done Michelle.

pkg70 said:

I think the 108 is just reflecting that the counter had been reset

AmazonMonkey said:

Quote from: stillhaventfoundOne thing about the difference in the numbers - the printout we saw in "?" seemed to have a gap of 108 minutes between each set of numbers and "accepted" note.  But if this is a log of when the button was pushed, then the gap shouldn't be 108 minutes, it should be LESS, right??  Doesn't the alarm start to sound at 4 min left?  If so, then -either I'm missing somethingOR- the log format is incorrect as a propOR- the printout represents something else entirely (I think others have speculated on satellite orbit)You have a point, and it has been discussed, Its true there is a 4min window (+- a few seconds) and that meand the code can be enetred anywhere in the 104 - 108 period... BUT I think the log simply indicates that after 108 minutes the code was pused (somwhere in that 4 mins).  So the interval will always be 108.  I think they  (the producers) just wanted people to eaily see the pattern so they went with that.

HurleysGirl said:

I know that as true "Losties" we want to find an explanation for everything, especially the discrepancies, but I have to tell you all, I used to work in the film business (as did my dad, and so on) and when you are shooting a complicated, one hour, effects packed, weekly show, there are bound to be continuity issues from time to time.  As much as we all love script supervisors and editors, they are human and do make mistakes.  I imagine being the script super for this show is hair raising and I certainly wouldn't want to be him/her when my work is being dissected week after week by thousands of rabid fans!!!  (If necessary, I will move this post over to the rant section).

LadyQ said:

Quote from: dharmadocIf you look at the old or first print out and eliminate the year part of the date then it would break down as follow:416 0207 9:17.  the 0207 representing Feb 7th and the 9:17 the time.  Also,  if you look at the sequence of printouts the 0207 changes to 0208 when the time passes 12:00.  You can also notice on the first printout that it goes from 9:17 to after midnight, changing the date, but missing an entry for 11:05 on the 7th and the 8th.i like this theory.  what if the first numbers (416) denote WHO pushed the button.  when eko/locke (i don't rememeber which) read the entries in the book didn't each person have a number assigned to them?

AmazonMonkey said:

Quote from: seventhgenHere is another thought (crazy I know). How many of our lost charcters have "killed" some one or at least tried to?Not crazy at all...Kate - Yea, Hurely - Yea, Sawyer - Yea , Jack - Yea, Jin - Yea, Sayid - We assume so, Eko - Yea, Ana Lucia  - Yaa.... and my theory (shhh don't tell anyone) is that Libby killed her husband and played coocoo to get off... many of them have whether it be cold blood or not, and the rest we do not know enough backstory about.

seventhgen said:

Here is another thought (crazy I know). How many of our lost charcters have "killed" some one or at least tried to?

dharmadoc said:

If you look at the old or first print out and eliminate the year part of the date then it would break down as follow:
416 0207 9:17. the 0207 representing Feb 7th and the 9:17 the time. Also, if you look at the sequence of printouts the 0207 changes to 0208 when the time passes 12:00. You can also notice on the first printout that it goes from 9:17 to after midnight, changing the date, but missing an entry for 11:05 on the 7th and the 8th.

BobBX542 said:

darthmaul1-I never thought about the days lasting longer than 24 hours on the island, but since they showed Penny and the guys in the little science hub in real time, the odds are that they both are the same.

Geronimo Jackson said:

Nodarthmaul1 I really agree with Slede it's a contunity error.There are several through out season one and two.

darthmaul1 said:

the old date could be 4th month 16th day and the year is 2002 and the accumulated time of 68hrs 29 minutes
maybe the days on the island are longer? :)

Geronimo Jackson said:

[quote]However, when we first saw the print log (click here), it contained numbers like:41602068:29 which doesn't fit the same formatting (you can't easily turn this into a date). The closest would be 41 6-02-06 8:29, but, in this case, what is the 41 and why is the year 2006? This is most likely a continuity or prop error.VIEW IMAGE HEREI agree I think we have to let this one slide as a continuty error,isn't the fist,won't be the last :)

darthmaul1 said:

Good point that the date stayed the same for 40 hours, I did not notice that but the time is still by time of day and on the old printout it was accumulated time

sledgeweb said:

Quote from: martysandersI believe that the actual date only appears when the "system failure" has occured.  It's hard to tell on the systemfailure.jpg, but it looks like the partial value at the top right is consistent with the first printout.jpg image.No, it is consistent with the SYSTEM FAILURE below it. The entry above ends in 0410:52, so it is likely 9220410:52 or 9-22-04 10:52As mentioned, a number of 68:29 doesn't really make sense, because this appears to be date stamps of a sort. There are only 24 hours in a day - so the date would increment once it gets to 24 hours and the hours would reset.

phialpha412 said:

maybe the 06 is the numbers. there are 6 numbers in the series (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42) it is stating that all 6 of the numbers have been entered

bastor said:

Well the date must be the same my birthday :P september 22nd 12:00 :) 1985


But i still wonder what the previus numbers mean? Maybe it shows evry pressing of the button each time the button is pressed it logs it in the computer each time it is not...

Jugdish said:

They haven't been on the island for 2-3 years it is 2004 on the island.

Alex2000 said:

Why does it have to be a time?
It could just be hours, or something else.

vypurr said:

what time is 68:29? lol. We just caught a minor foul up I think! Also before there was an off number skipping pattern, but we do not know about this one!

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