I know it sounds far fetched to think that so many are in on it, but from what the Lost The Experience game has taught me about Hanso, is that if you think they have a hand in a conspiracy...then not only are you right, but you missed a hidden conspiracy they were a part of too. Speaking of which..I have to post the theory that the plane crash, most definitely not an accident. I don't think the island's naturally occuring-magnetic force or otherwise caused it. I think that the crash was planned by Hanso Foundation/Dharma Initiative (HFDI). Let me rephrase that...maybe the crash was not part of their plan and instead was due to sabotage, but I think taking the plane and all it's passengers to the island most definitely was. All HFDI's key interests were "herded" one way or another onto that flight, and being that the others are there with HFDI's interests at heart, they were expecting the new arrivals...that would explain how they quickly had passenger names and had time to prepare moles into both parties (tail end and front end survivors) right after the crash. 

I am with you on the first part but not the second, I think he thought he was a fraud, but then he actually got a sign with Claire and was so desperate because it was his first (or first in a long time) vision.  Maybe it was put there by Dharma or maybe coincidentally he knew that if she did crash she COULDN'T give the baby away and therefore they would stay together...  Thats what I think.  But I could be wrong, I havn't been able to definitively figure out the timing on the paralell plot line between Claire and Eko before they got on the plane.I don't see how the Claire thing could've been a setup.  Wasn't it her friend's idea to go see the psychic?  That would mean her friend's in on it too...

Quote from: Lost Souls StarOk, this is going to sound weird but...I think the psychic did "confess" to Eko, about being a fraud. I think he needed to let it out to someone, and it shows even more the abilities of Eko, as a priest more than a criminal. I believe it was all more to do with the fact that he lied to Claire, not to Eko...He sent Claire out to the wolves (Hanso/Dharma), I am with you on the first part but not the second, I think he thought he was a fraud, but then he actually got a sign with Claire and was so desperate because it was his first (or first in a long time) vision.  Maybe it was put there by Dharma or maybe coincidentally he knew that if she did crash she COULDN'T give the baby away and therefore they would stay together...  Thats what I think.  But I could be wrong, I havn't been able to definitively figure out the timing on the paralell plot line between Claire and Eko before they got on the plane.

I think the psychic lied about being a fraud to get rid of Eko.  Before he told Claire to get on the plane, he kept telling her that SHE had to raise the baby.  It HAD TO BE HER AND NO ONE ELSE.  When he wanted her on the plane, he told her this couple in Los Angeles could take care of the baby BUT ONLY THEM.  If he wanted her to get on the island and let her gaurd down, he could have told her that no one in Austraillia could take care of the baby, or that the baby was in danger and had to get to safty, but he didn't.  He made it very clear that the danger was in anyone but Claire (and later the non-existant couple in Los Angeles) RAISING her baby.Besides, something real happened to his daughter.  What she told Eko about his brother was spot on.  She even knew Yemi's name. 

It is my assumption that Oceanic is involved, their logo and planes seem to show up a lot, in the medical station, in the background shots (when Helen broke it off with Locke).  That is a good point about Cindy the stewardess and the pilot.  I wonder if the staff is a part of the bigger picture...

Quote from: GuestWe know that Dharma and Oceanic are involved in all of this together, perhaps they have certain people who work for them whose job it is to direct certain people in the direction they want them to go.  Maybe the psychic works for Dharma/Hanso/Oceanic?  There are others I suspect of this as well- Walts mother?  Locke's Helen?  I'm not sure they are involved in this together...but I have been thinking about it...Did you notice that everyone that worked for Oceanic disappeared from the island?  The stewardess?  Do they know for sure that the pilot is dead?  Maybe that was just staged...

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How come the psychic couldn't see that the others wanted the baby also. I have been thinking about the psychic's motives. If he is really a psychic then he sent her to a locations where people keep kidnapping her baby. Danielle, Charlie and the others. Psychic is not very protective of Claire or Aaron. I think he sent her there just to get Aaron on the island.

siouxiesue1919, I thought the same thing, I figured that it might be relatively easy to give the baby up for adoption if you don't have to see the baby and the parents ever again. But if you were on a deserted island with no more than 50 people, it would be kind of hard to deal with seeing your own child grow up under the care of someone else. This was the reason that the psychic made sure that Claire was on the flight. He saw the crash and knew that Claire would raise the baby if she were there.

Quote from: gingerMalkin could still be a fraud and pawn.Maybe he was intimidated (by the Hanso group?) - into telling Claire she needed to be on that flight.He gave her money - but was it his money?Was the cash just a way to insure Claire would be on that flight one way or another?If he was a real psychic, wouldn't he have told her to stay put because of the plane crash?He was also quick to get rid of Eko and any further questions from the church - besides, Eko has a flight to catch.It could be that the "resurrection" of the daughter was the method to get the message from Eko's brother to him.Malkin seemed unaware of what his daughter saw when she was "between places".Malkin could be really just freaked out about what happened to his daughter - wanting to truly believe the story he told Eko.Why? Because does a fraud psychic really believe in psychic powers at all? I figured that he told Claire she had to be on that flight because he didn't want her to give the baby up for adoption.  Remember he told her that the baby couldn't be raised by anyone else?  Maybe her crashing on the island was the only way to ensure that...

Malkin could still be a fraud and pawn.Maybe he was intimidated (by the Hanso group?) - into telling Claire she needed to be on that flight.He gave her money - but was it his money?Was the cash just a way to insure Claire would be on that flight one way or another?If he was a real psychic, wouldn't he have told her to stay put because of the plane crash?He was also quick to get rid of Eko and any further questions from the church - besides, Eko has a flight to catch.It could be that the "resurrection" of the daughter was the method to get the message from Eko's brother to him.Malkin seemed unaware of what his daughter saw when she was "between places".Malkin could be really just freaked out about what happened to his daughter - wanting to truly believe the story he told Eko.Why? Because does a fraud psychic really believe in psychic powers at all?

I think Malkin was lying too. If he was a fraud it would make no sense for him to give Claire all that money to fly to L.A. But why would he admit to being a fraudulent psychic? His story would have been just as good without revealing this potentially damaging information.

I thought that was the same one...wow!  Now do you think he turned away Eko because he knew Eko was supposed to be on that flight and if he would have stayed to look into the "miracle" that Eko would have missed the flight and alter the outcome?  Wow this is really getting deep!

When Claire went to go see him, it seemed as if he was living in a house with no family.

I think he is lying about being a fraud because his daughter has some sort of supernatural connection.